shunning is love - Feb 15 2011 Watchtower

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  • jj123jj123
    jj123jj123

    18 If you face a similar situation, please remember that Jehovah sympathizes with you. By cutting off contact with the disfellowshipped or disassociated one, you are showing that you hate the attitudes and actions that led to that outcome. However, you are also showing that you love the wrongdoer enough to do what is best for him or her. Your loyalty to Jehovah may increase the likelihood that the disciplined one will repent and return to Jehovah. 19 One individual who was disfellowshipped and was later reinstated wrote: “I am happy that Jehovah loves his people enough to see that his organization is kept clean. What may seem harsh to outsiders is both necessary and really a loving thing to do.” Do you think that this person would have been helped to come to such a conclusion had members of the congregation, including her family, maintained regular contact with her while she was disfellowshipped? Our supporting the Scriptural arrangement of disfellowshipping gives evidence that we love righteousness and recognize Jehovah’s right to set standards of conduct.

    hopefully more "outsiders" think cult instead of "harsh"...

  • GrandmaJones
    GrandmaJones

    Gee, way to work up my family.....

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep

    Emotional blackmail is emotional blackmail no matter how your cult excuses it.

    At least the new Elders manual doesn't tell them to excommunicate cult members who associate with their excommunicated family members.

    No doubt, some will shun them anyway, especially as that has just been praised in this article.

  • poopsiecakes
    poopsiecakes

    Fabulous, just when my mom started speaking to me again

  • VampireDCLXV
    VampireDCLXV

    Ooohhh... poor poopsie... ((((((HUGS))))))

    V665V665

  • Gary1914
    Gary1914

    "By cutting off contact with the disfellowshipped or disassociated one, you are showing that you hate the attitudes and actions that led to that outcome."

    No you're not. You are showing that you are obedient to the Governing Body. There is absolutely nothing loving about shunning. Nothing. What about just telling the person that you hate what they have done, that you are disappointed in them? Why must you shun them?

    And those they have disassociated themselves? Why must they be shunned? Why punish someone who no longer wants to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses? Especially if the person still professes to love God but just no longer wish to be a witness?

    What the Watchtower does is practice a form of theocratic blackmail. Either you come back to the organization or we cannot speak to you or associate with you.

    It's hateful and disgusting.

  • just n from bethel
    just n from bethel

    Interestingly enough, in their recent tract to Russians, they cried foul about Russia making public denouncements of JWs.

    Here is the quote:

    CAN you imagine being denounced publicly as...dangerous? The very words are inflammatory,
    for they call to mind some of the worst
    crimes and the most frightening problems of our
    times.
    The more the claim is repeated, the more the
    people believe it. But does that make the accusations
    true?
    "

    So while it is hateful for Russian officals to publicly denounce JWs - it is loving for JWs to publicly denounce their own members?

    They also used an interesting analogy about it being wrong to blame a religion if it causes "strife" between family members when family member joins another religion.

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/202087/1/Irony-In-Watchtower-defense-of-religious-freedom-in-Russia

  • serein
    serein

    il be shuned from today

    ,dredding the ordeals of bumping in to some one,

    as some of u may no i sent a diss letter which they returned,

    then i sent it back so today i think im deff dissed as no ones brought it back this time.

    i dint have any freinds in there anyways so iv not lost anything,

    its just the ignorent way they gona treat me from now on if they see me thats gona do my head in,it wont be that that gets me back in.its what i find after my search for truth thats gona gets me back in

    if its the truth then il find my way back,but as for now i deff dont think its them whos on that right path im looking for.

  • pirata
    pirata

    The writer of that article needs to do some Bible reading (taken from http://www.jwstruggle.com/?p=507):

    (Matthew 18:15-17) “Moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go lay bare his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he does not listen, take along with you one or two more, in order that at the mouth of two or three witnesses every matter may be established. 17 If he does not listen to them, speak to the congregation. If he does not listen even to the congregation, let him be to you just as a man of the nations and as a tax collector.

    (Matthew 9:9-13) Next, while passing along from there, Jesus caught sight of a man named Matthew seated at the tax office, and he said to him: “Be my follower.” Thereupon he did rise up and follow him. 10 Later, while he was reclining at the table in the house, look! many tax collectors and sinners came and began reclining with Jesus and his disciples. 11 But on seeing this the Pharisees began to say to his disciples: “Why is it that YOUR teacher eats with tax collectors and sinners?” 12 Hearing [them], he said: “Persons in health do not need a physician, but the ailing do. 13 Go, then, and learn what this means, ‘I want mercy, and not sacrifice.’ For I came to call, not righteous people, but sinners.”

    (1 Corinthians 5:9-13) In my letter I wrote YOU to quit mixing in company with fornicators, 10 not [meaning] entirely with the fornicators of this world or the greedy persons and extortioners or idolaters. Otherwise, YOU would actually have to get out of the world. 11 But now I am writing YOU to quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man. 12 For what do I have to do with judging those outside? Do YOU not judge those inside, 13 while God judges those outside? “Remove the wicked [man] from among yourselves.”

    (Romans 16:17) Now I exhort YOU, brothers, to keep your eye on those who cause divisions and occasions for stumbling contrary to the teaching that YOU have learned, and avoid them.

    (Titus 3:10) As for a man that promotes a sect,reject him after a first and a second admonition;

    (2 Corinthians 2:5-6) Now if anyone has caused sadnessM, [for cross reference, see next verse] he has saddened, not me, but all of YOU to an extent—not to be too harsh in what I say. 6 This rebuke given by the majority is sufficient for such a man,

    ( M1 Corinthians 5:1) . . .Actually fornication is reported among YOU, and such fornication as is not even among the nations, that a wife a certain [man] has of [his] father.

    (2 John 7-11) For many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist. 8 Look out for yourselves, that YOU do not lose the things we have worked to produce, but that YOU may obtain a full reward. 9 Everyone that pushes ahead and does not remain in the teaching of the Christ does not have God. He that does remain in this teaching is the one that has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to YOU and does not bring this teaching, never receive him into YOUR homes or say a greeting to him. 11 For he that says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works.

    (1 John 2:22) Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one that denies the Father and the Son.

    (2 Thessalonians 3:6-15) Now we are giving YOU orders, brothers, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, to withdraw from every brother walking disorderly and not according to the tradition YOU received from us. 7 For YOU yourselves know the way YOU ought to imitate us, because we did not behave disorderly among YOU… 11 For we hear certain ones are walking disorderly among YOU, not working at all but meddling with what does not concern them.… 14 But if anyone is not obedient to our word through this letter, keep this one marked, stop associating with him, that he may become ashamed. 15 And yet do not be considering him as an enemy, but continue admonishing him as a brother.

    (Luke 6:27-37) “But I say to YOU who are listening, Continue to love YOUR enemies, to do good to those hating YOU, 28 to bless those cursing YOU, to pray for those who are insulting YOU. 29 To him that strikes you on the one cheek, offer the other also; and from him that takes away your outer garment, do not withhold even the undergarment…31 “Also, just as YOU want men to do to YOU, do the same way to them…36 Continue becoming merciful, just as YOUR Father is merciful. 37 “Moreover, stop judging, and YOU will by no means be judged; and stop condemning, and YOU will by no means be condemned. Keep on releasing, and YOU will be released.

    (1 Corinthians 4:6) Now, brothers, these things I have transferred so as to apply to myself and A·pol´los for YOUR good, that in our case YOU may learn the [rule]: Do not go beyond the things that are written,” in order that YOU may not be puffed up individually in favor of the one against the other.

  • Snoozy
    Snoozy

    Aren't these the same people that said "Beating your child is showing love for them"?

    That's how they used to interpret"Spare the rod and spoil the child".

    Way to go JW's...

    Snoozy

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