a "bloody" question - components vs. fractions

by inbetween 13 Replies latest watchtower medical

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  james_woods

  It's obvious that any extraction of acceptable blood components requires storing and processing whole blood; how does the Society rationalize this to the Bibical command to "pour out the blood"? And what happens to a JW who donates his blood exclusively to be processed into acceptable fractions?

  This is the essential point - there is no acceptable scriptural rationale to separate whole blood into some fraction or "component" and use it if you strictly apply the early traditional JW blood doctrine.

  Would it be OK to filter out some part of whole blood and make a blood sausage with the other part?

  I don't see the difference.
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  Mad Sweeney

  I think it bears mentioning that the "primary components" versus "fractions" distinction is a completely fictional fabrication. It is not based on anything scientific or medical or mathematical. It probably came out of the arse of someone in Bethel who picked up a Jr. High Biology book at the U.N. Library.
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  Marvin Shilmer

  Mad Sweeny writes:

  “I think it bears mentioning that the "primary components" versus "fractions" distinction is a completely fictional fabrication. It is not based on anything scientific or medical or mathematical.”

  I think a better characterization would be to say that the distinction Watchtower draws between “primary components” and “fractions of primary components” is entirely a manmade artificial one.

  Though contemporary technology is able to render plasma, platelets, red cells and white cells as individual components from blood, in the natural world there is no such rendering of blood. That is to say, it is only by manmade artificial means that we have blood products known as plasma, platelets, red cells and white cells.

  In the natural setting when blood ceases circulation it quickly begins to clot. Clotting blood does not separate into the 4 components known as plasma, platelets, red cells and white cells. Clotting blood separates into 2 components known as clot and serum. The clot contains a mixture of red cells, white cells, platelets and fibrinogen. Serum is the clear fluid in which the clot is suspended. Serum does not contain all of what plasma is, and the clot is composed of several components of blood including fibrinogen, which is a constituent of plasma.

  -- Plasma as an individual constituent rendered from blood is an entirely manmade product.

  -- Platelets as an individual constituent rendered from blood is an entirely manmade product.

  -- Red cells as an individual constituent rendered from blood is an entirely manmade product.

  -- White cells as an individual constituent rendered from blood is an entirely manmade product.

  Marvin Shilmer
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  inbetween

  To be more specific, if the plasma has microscopic amounts of erythrocytes then when that plasma is processed to render cryoprecipitate and cryosupernatant those erythrocytes will be found distributed in that cryoprecipitate and cryosupernatant.

  Marvin Shilmer

  That nails it down for me, thank you.