The watchtower eats humble pie in trying to locate and reinstate all those wrongly disfellowshiped?

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  • still wondering
    still wondering

    What happens when the rules regarding medical treatment are changed because it is now decided that the watchtower god does allows certain blood fractions after all but which formerly the WTS said would offend him so much that offenders would be sent to Gehenna?

    Blood serums are just one example. In 1954 the Society’s ruling on blood serums disallowed their use because using blood serums was displeasing to God. Some individuals will now die under the new ruling that formerly would have lived.

    Four years later in 1958 this ruling was reversed thus allowing some individuals who would have died under the previous changed ruling to now live. It was now decided that using blood serums was not displeasing to God after all hence the change from disallowed to allow.

    This single change presents two immediate problems. Firstly, who is responsible for the deaths, and the consequences of those deaths on their families, of those who, because they were told that using blood serums was displeasing to God, followed the Society’s rules and lost their lives for no reason other than they were mislead about what God requires?

    Secondly, what now happens to those individuals who followed their own conscience and decided to use blood serums to save their life and were subsequently disfellowshiped? Under the new rule saying that God does allow blood serum usage and that it never had been offensive to Him they had been disfellowshiped not for doing what was wrong but rather for doing what was right, for showing respect for life. Disfellowshipping is supposed to keep the congregation clean by expelling wrongdoers not expelling those who are practicing righteousness, those who are showing the utmost respect for life.

    So just what does happen to those ones who had been wrongly disfellowshiped under the previous incorrect rule and even those who had been wrongly disfellowshiped in the intervening weeks from when the Watchtower Society first internally decided to change the rule and the actual arrival of the issue of the Watchtower or letter publically announcing the NEW rule in the kingdom hall?

    Would the Society make a concerted effort to immediately contact those ones explaining that they had been wrongly disfellowshiped and will be immediately re-instated and will not after all suffer eternal death in Gehenna when they die and needless separation from baptized members of their family now? Even if the Society did do this (which they don’t) could they be sure of finding every single individual who had been wrongly disfellowshiped? Some may have moved away and left forever thinking that they were condemned to Gehenna when they die.

    If all this sounds like a messy situation think of what happened five years later (1963) when the ruling allowing blood serums was overturned yet again and completely reversed. Why? Because the Society said once again that using blood serums was displeasing to God. If you were ill and needed blood serum and were able to squeeze it in the day before the ruling changed you may have lived but if you fell ill a day after the ruling changed you may die. Yes, the decision whether to sacrifice one’s life in an attempt to please God entirely depends on whether a person fell ill and needed such treatment on the Saturday before the Sunday Watchtower meeting (when the change was announced) or on the Monday after. Is this treating life as sacred and showing respect to our Creator?

    For more info

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/202709/1/The-WTS-and-blood-transfusions-Part-1-Please-criticise

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/202805/1/The-WTS-and-blood-transfusions-Part-2-Please-criticise

  • blondie
    blondie

    Are you or have you ever been a jw?

    jws are to obey the WTS even when they think it is wrong. You are supposed to wait for God to correct the matter. There's a hated phrase, "wait for God." If you disobey them before it is "corrected" you are considered guilty of not following their lead. If jws die because of following a then unknown correct policy, the WTS says God will resurrect them.

  • still wondering
    still wondering

    Yes, and for many decades.

    You are quite right, that would be the jw answer but as we all know they have an answer for everything, usually quite infantile. Unfortunately it is NEVER the right one.

    Anyone not suffering from the psychopathic symptoms that the jws’ display would find this “explanation” as preposterous as a flat earther EXPLAINING his belief.

  • fokyc
    fokyc

    The Watchtower will NEVER ever eat 'humble pie', they are NEVER wrong.

    The Watchtower have NO interest in locating, or trying to locate anyone they may have wrongly disfellowshipped.

    The Watchtower have NO interest in reinstating those persons.

    They are just a book publishing company after all!

  • Finally-Free
    Finally-Free

    A sin against God is easily forgiven. A sin against the "FDS", the "spirit directed organization", is not. Individual JWs have the obligation to adjust their beliefs at the organization's whim, with little or no explanation. Anything less would be considered "running ahead of God's spirit directed organization".

    I can't see the organization ever admitting to wrongly disfellowshipping anyone. While they might reinstate someone who was wrongly DF'd, I can't imagine them ever clearing a person's reputation by announcing from the platform that the person was wrongly DF'd.

    W

  • alanv
    alanv

    There was another really bad consequence of the societies changing their mind on something.

    For years JW hemophilics were told by the society that they could have one dose of a blood fraction but no more as that would constitute a 'feeding' of blood which they felt was wrong.

    They had told this to witnesses who had contacted them. After a while they changed their mind and decided it was ok to have what was necessary for them. So they contaced ones whoi had written in but of course could not tell the ones who had phoned in.

    So it may well have happened that many JWs died simply because the society had given them wrong imfo.

    Apparantly it was put into print 3 years later but not in a very clear way, and certainly not saying that they had any new light on this.

    Info on this can be found in Ray Franz book 'Crisis of conscience'

  • DanaBug
    DanaBug

    Admitting to wrongly disfellowshipping someone would be admitting that the "holy spirit" that directs them was wrong, wouldn't it?

  • Soldier77
    Soldier77

    The WTS would never admit they were wrong. They've had a lot of chances to do so with their failed prophecies, blood changes, generation changes, UN NGO exposé, Malawi, Mexico, Russia.... like I said, lots of chances to admit they were wrong.

    they not only won't admit it, but they wouldn't even think of contacting all those that were wrongly sentenced. They think they are above reproach.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    The WBT$ eat Humble Pie?..LOL!!..

    "If you want to be a reinstated Jehovah`s Witness"..

    "Pucker Up!"..

    File:Shawn Michaels Kiss My Ass Club.jpg

    ....................... ...OUTLAW

  • carla
    carla

    Finally Free said, "A sin against God is easily forgiven. A sin against the "FDS", the "spirit directed organization"-- how perfect is that! Sums it up quite well!

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