Splane's take on David and Bathsheba-(Obey Borg)

by Sayswho 13 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Sayswho
    Sayswho

    Just got this from my dad... I had to put my boots on to read it. The moral of these stories never add up.


    September 20 ...Bethel Morning Worship 9/20 comments
    "Abundant peace belongs to those loving your law,
    and for them there is no stumbling block".
    Psalm 119:165
    Brother David SplaneSituations in life can cause us to stumble.
    Consider the sin of David and Bathsheba.
    How did their sin affect those around them?

    David had 5 wives. How did it affect them?
    Likely, rumors and whispering surrounded them
    everywhere they went.

    Abigail was one of David's wives. How did she feel?
    We know from the Bible account how sensible Abigail was.
    How horrible her marriage was with Nabal. She must have
    been so full of hope with her marriage to David.

    Were her expectations realized? How disappointing
    to learn of David's sin with Bathsheba.

    If the law was strictly enforced, both David and Bathsheba

    would be stoned. The 5 wives would be free to remarry.
    But Jehovah intervened. Jehovah judged them.
    They were forgiven.

    How did the wives come to grips with that fact?
    They had to understand that God's purpose is

    MORE important than anyone's hurt feelings. They would have to learn to see David as Jehovah did.
    However hurt they were, David was to remain their husband.

    What about Bathsheba? How were those around her affected?
    Perhaps she dealt with the accusations of
    "Well, Ahithophel was Bathsheba's grandfather...
    certainly this was a case of Nepotism"

    And consider Bathsheba's son Solomon,
    Jehovah chose Solomon to be the heir to the throne
    (1Chron. 22:9,10).Another "blow" to the 5 wives and their sons...

    Again, the wives would have to view Solomon as Jehovah did.

    It would have been SO EASY to develop a critical attitude.

    You had to be a spiritual person.
    Suppose there was a widow whose only son was

    recently stoned for adultery, how would she view

    the forgiveness of David and Bathsheba?

    As a double-standard?The older men at the gate who were strict followers

    of the law, how did they view the ruling of the king

    and Bathsheba?

    And Nathan how was he viewed? Was he on the

    "up and up"?
    I mean, didn't David and Bathsheba name one of

    their sons, "Nathan"? hmmmm.
    *Loyalty to God and his Organization despite

    our personal sense of justice being offended*Clamp down on pride..

    Obey and submit to theocratic rule.

    Sw

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  • agonus
    agonus

    Interesting that King David Splane uses his Biblical namesake to continue to excuse the Org's sins and dismiss criticism. Only problem is, there are a few crucial differences, namely:

    1) King David was confronted by a prophet sent in the name of Jehovah (actually this could in a sense apply to the org)

    2) King David ADMITTED HIS WRONGDOING AND APOLOGIZED,

    3) King David FINALLY STOPPED COVERING SHIT UP!

    King David didn't get away with it forever and neither will "Jehovah's Organization", no matter how many generations you tack on...

  • agonus
    agonus

    The GB is fond of saying that one of the hallmarks of Bible truth is, rather than legends and myths that paint their heroes as godlike superhumans, the Bible candidly reveals its' heroes weaknesses, wrongdoings, humility, repentence and human failings.

    When will you admit your weaknesses, Dave? When will you apologize, show some humility, repent, and admit you've failed repeatedly? Will you do as your heroes did or will you continue to demand unquestioning loyalty and disallow any criticism?

  • JRK
    JRK

    What a f**king yes man, that f**kstick Society bastard. I hope someday in a parallel universe Uriah gets to pummel both Davids to death. (Not that the pussy Davd Splane would take a lot of effort). That wimp probably has challenges pulling down he sheets in the morning.

    JK

  • agonus
    agonus

    That, and the Biblical King David was at least a marginally compelling character with a modicum of charisma and intelligence.

  • Sayswho
    Sayswho

    If the law was strictly enforced, both David and Bathsheba would be stoned. The 5 wives would be free to remarry.

    But Jehovah intervened. Jehovah judged them. They were forgiven.

    There are few problems with this part above (well really the whole thing):

    1. Who do laws and rules really apply to?
    2. Where and what is the criteria for immediate forgiveness?
    3. If his 5 wives left him, according to Jw thinking..."where would they go"?
    4. If they were forgiven why were they so-called punished?
    5. To have harm come to others because of their transgression...is punishing the innocent.
    • Just stop thinking and nod your head up and down

    Stop Thinking switch

    Sw

  • life is to short
    life is to short

    Scary, very scary. They are totally putting themselves in the place of God. Scary

    LITS

  • VM44
    VM44

    What did Davis Splane mean by this?

    And Nathan how was he viewed? Was he on the

    "up and up"?
    I mean, didn't David and Bathsheba name one of

    their sons, "Nathan"? hmmmm.

  • baltar447
    baltar447

    Wow. Who has the problem with pride? They just can't possibly be wrong, even when they are!

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