Attention Lurkers- Consider the effectiveness of your lifesaving work

by stuckinamovement 57 Replies latest jw friends

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  badcompany

  Excellent, SIAM... This is one of the main reasons I left. Just do the math.
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  MrFreeze

  Hey now, quit with the logic.
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  Ding

  This seems to me to be a great line of questioning to try to get JWs to think.

  It's something they're not prepared for at all.

  Well done!
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  Retrovirus

  Thomas Covenant writes:

  How would you feel about the 3,000 employees?

  My limited experience tells me that most jws are honest, and trying to do right within the limits of their cognitive dissonance. It worked when I challenged my jw acquaintances about distributing material when they could not verify it's truthfulness.

  The whole Nuremberg trials thing was about doing what you know is right, not just mindlessly carrying out orders for fear of consequences.

  I believe that this might work, at least for "honest hearted ones"

  Retro
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  wasblind

  This is one great post, thanks SIAM
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  bigmouth

  That's superb SIAM. My wife and I were making the very same observation a couple of days ago and you put the whole idea down perfectly.
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  WTWizard

  If there is a life and death situation with the water, the first thing I would do is order the water turned off. Then, I would broadcast it on the radio and TV via the emergency broadcast system. People would call to complain about the water blackout, and they would be told that there is a major problem with the water's being poisoned, and that the water would be off until the poison can be removed. Since there would be no water until it's safe, no door to door would be needed.

  But, even if a situation did come up requiring door to door warnings, it would be for a limited period. You go door to door, leaving flyers on people's doors and under them (and in the mail slots, if possible) if people are not home. But, you don't need to take not at homes--especially if homes are blatantly unoccupied. You don't need to take return visits and studies. You just get the people out of harm's way as quickly as possible. Then, after the crisis passes, you return people to what's left of their homes--and the door to door work stops. For sure, it doesn't last anything like 135 years and no signs of stopping.

  Now, if this door to door work involves vitamin busts or making sure there is adequate fluoride in their drinking water, I would want it done in the slowest, most ineffective way possible so people would be able to have access to safe vitamins and water as long as possible. This, to me, would not be a life-saving work but an exercise of enforcing a stupid law. That would be similar to what the door to door witlessing work is.
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  stuckinamovement

  Thanks for your comments. As a follow up...

  If you doubt that the Governing Body doesn't believe themselves that the message that is born is urgent, take a look at the Proclaimer's book. You will see a distinct contrast with the way the message used to be spread, compared to the half hearted ineffective way today.

  You will see pictures of the radio stations the society used to run (with world wide interconnects), the photo drama of creation shown in theaters (cutting edge for its time), the newspaper advertisements about talks given by the presidents, the sound cars, the phonographs, and lastly Witnesses with sandwich boards marching through cities. These photos are clear proof that the leadership sincerely believed that the message they bore was urgent and lifesaving. This was in the 1910's-1940's those guys walked the walk. They backed up their claims with action.

  We often hear that the message that is born by witnesses is urgent and means peoples lives.... this claim is the same as in the 1910-1940 era but has been proved to be empty rhetoric by the actions of the leadership. Not one person's life has been saved by the preaching work in the last 130 years.

  SIAM
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  stuckinamovement

  Bump,

  Just to encourage any lurkers in view of "increased activity" planned for April.

  SIAM
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  miseryloveselders

  Thanks for your comments. As a follow up...

  If you doubt that the Governing Body doesn't believe themselves that the message that is born is urgent, take a look at the Proclaimer's book. You will see a distinct contrast with the way the message used to be spread, compared to the half hearted ineffective way today.

  You will see pictures of the radio stations the society used to run (with world wide interconnects), the photo drama of creation shown in theaters (cutting edge for its time), the newspaper advertisements about talks given by the presidents, the sound cars, the phonographs, and lastly Witnesses with sandwich boards marching through cities. These photos are clear proof that the leadership sincerely believed that the message they bore was urgent and lifesaving. This was in the 1910's-1940's those guys walked the walk. They backed up their claims with action.

  We often hear that the message that is born by witnesses is urgent and means peoples lives.... this claim is the same as in the 1910-1940 era but has been proved to be empty rhetoric by the actions of the leadership. Not one person's life has been saved by the preaching work in the last 130 years.

  SIAM

  I'm glad you bumped this thread, because I just noticed this post. This is a very good observation!! They were really gung ho about preaching back then weren't they? Wow!! Good post duke! Its in harmony with the conventions now too. There was a time a big deal was made about conventions, and information regarding locals and time was put out there for the public. They're getting away from that now too, and focusing more on who they know will attend, that being JWs. Just goes to show, this religion has officially entered ho-hum status. The leadership's focus appears to be centered on retention through the emphasis of importance on all the silly things that make JWs unique. My personal opinion is, they could care less about nonJWs, as they know with the exception of the foreign, uneducated population, nobody's converting to become a JW. So they keep the rest of us involved in stupid, repetative activities all for the sake of keeping us too busy to recognize we've been screwed. Fascinating.