I'm feeling disappointed now

by Nobleheart 29 Replies latest jw friends

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    There is no reason to think any human knows anything more about God than you do. It is incredibly easy to get one's ideas published but that doesn't make one's ideas correct. The Bible, the Koran, the Tao Te Ching, The Silmarillion, The Illiad, the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Bhagavad Gita, etc. All of those are very widely read. Which of them are true? Are they all false? Are they all partly true and partly false? Are these the wrong questions to be asking?

    I think so.

    Think about the God you've been told about and how very HUMAN he seems. Why is that?

    God isn't someone else.

  • Ding
    Ding

    Nobleheart,

    We all have different spiritual journeys.

    The apostle Paul wasn't one of the original 12 apostles.

    In fact, he spent a lot of years heading in the wrong direction and had to be knocked to the ground and blinded in order to figure that out.

    He went on to have a very productive Christian life.

    Be greatful that you didn't spend your whole life in "the truth."

    Consider the possibility that God is calling you right now and He started by getting you out of a cult.

    Since you haven't given up on God, read the Bible on your own without Watchtower materials.

    I'd recommend starting in the NT with the epistles -- Romans, Galatians, Ephesians, Colossians...

    You'll be surprised how different the Bible message is from what the WT claims it to be.

    If you'd like to PM me at any time to talk, feel free.

    In order to send a PM, click on the person's name in a posting heading and you'll get to a menu that will allow you to send a private message.

  • Miss J
    Miss J

    I was heart broken when i learned it was a big lie, thankfully i was so well researched within the wt organisation i was able to find out more and more truths from other sources, like the bible being so changed around and the bits taken out and the truth about what Jesus was really like. The jws are just as corrupt as the rest of these big business religions.. i believe in christianity and also leaning towards some islamic teachings too but this time round i will be very careful before i commit and i think the jws shoot themselves in the foot by giving us all these explinations of scripture cos you can use them to find out the truths in other teachings... they need to watch out cos i would be able to help people leave better than ever thanks to knowing the doctrines inside out. I can say now im not frightened anymore of armageddon , although there really is an evil government plan. This new world order the witnesses used to preach is part of a bigger government / masonic / illuminati plan and the jws pride themselves on being no part of the world but they unwittingly will be enslaved to the governments after the mass depopulation that is so called armageddon occurs, they will be cleaning up the dead bodies but it wont be gods doing... bible and quran all prophecies the signs in heaven the tribualation, the 1000 year reign , dont doubt Gods warnings, but were all in it together and lovers of God will have hope , of heaven ... im rambling but it all is making perfect sense now x think about it muslims are the most hated, the true ones have the good qulaities like true christians who love people and God the great crowd that revelation says will be in heaven are going to be made up of people who love God... not only jws..we have a wrestling with wicked spirits , this is why the music industry is so full of devil worship now, they are the stars that people and the younger generations aspire to ... theres more to the bible and its prophecies and there are a wider range of poeple , christian and muslim that have grasped the truths and they show love and humility and are promoting real unity cos were going to need that in the time of the end. Don't let the media influence you to hate your brother and sister on earth x

    I hope you get your hope back and remember you can still pray to God xxx

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    Put simply, BEGIN to get comfortable with the FACT that you will never get answers to all of your questions, unless you join another cult or become a Fundamentalist.

  • Joey Jo-Jo
    Joey Jo-Jo

    Nobleheart When I discovered all this about JW's I went through a faze exactly like yours but over time it went away, mind you although I have been in for almost 30 nears I never dedicated myself and never bathtised. It went away over time. Since then I had drastic changes in believe, I started a real bible study, read a lot of research material about books of the bible, agnostic, atheist and other books on other religions, funny thing I did what the bible told me to do put everything to the test and realised the closer I want to get to God the more distant He becomes, a lot of people know what I know and still believe in Jesus or a God. I still believe in a God because I dont have the answers to everything. Dont want to get sidetrack but the bible is very different from what JW's teach. There are also things you can learn about yourself that will help you a lot, Read Steve Hassans books, im also writing about what I call the acumen complex.

  • Nobleheart
    Nobleheart

    Well thanks everyone for your feedback and personal experience.

    This board has been very therapeutic to me. It's a place where I can voice my opinions freely and actually people read and take the time to reply. I don't know why some posters here find people's comments a bit aggressive or bitter. Isn't it normal human reaction to get mad when finding out you've been misled, and had your life transformed to fit other ppl's agenda? I actually sympathize with most people here and I appreciate it when they're frank and don't sugarcoat their comments.

    jameswoods and undercover - I understand how someone with our background can reject the idea of religion and God altogether. I'm letting go of the first, but it's quite scary at the moment to contemplate the nonexistence of God.

    lost generation - i'm a convert, but i was a teen and never had a chance to fully research other religions. my family had already converted and i trusted their good judgement. I'm looking forward to experiencing the inner peace you describe.

    sd-7 - i'm actually reading the Bible alone, without any wt publication and it does make a difference.

    tec - thanks for your words of comfort. i was indeed misled by others, as was my family. i actually trusted they'd done their research. i guess not.

    pirata - I also have a dilemma, with the fact that the Bible (which we think of as a life manual from our Creator), isn't clear enough. If men haven't altered it, or have written their own ideas that is. So either way, God cannot require specific things from us humans if his book is open to interpretation. I might also be leaning toward independent Christianity, with each individual having a relationship with God dependless of his church. I'm reading CoC at the moment, but will read Christian Freedom when I'm done.

    snowbird and straightshooter - I hope God cares about you and me, your comments are really soothing. I'm just going through a hard patch these days.

  • Nobleheart
    Nobleheart

    Mad Sweeney leaving wt, Ding - you guys are some of my favourite people here and I've learned so much from your posts. I definitely don't intend to be a fundamentalist again, and will in time get comfortable with the idea of not needing all the answers. Ding, thanks for your nice line about God getting me out of this cult. You don't know how much that means to me right now. And yes, I'm happy I'm getting out of the cult while i'm still in my 20s. I can't take back time, but as someone told me, from now on I'll be more wary of being involved in something dubious at best.

    Miss J - interesting comments. I'd never look into islam just because of the treatment of women and Christ being just a man. But I do appreciate the good people there, and agree that their religion is the most hated, and it's growing fast, so they also could claim they're the one true faith. I don't know about the Illuminate/masonic plan, i hope it's just conspiracy theories.

    Joey jo-jo - I'll start a bible study without outside interference and i really hope to come closer to God. I'm also willing to read Steve Hassan's books since many here highly recommend them, why not give them a chance.

  • moshe
    moshe

    What does God need with a Starship or with the F&DS, the GB, churches, KH's, a Bible etc, etc-

    -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdpcGPPoawo

  • Listener
    Listener
    When I came to know the truth about the WT, I was disappointed, mad and angry at the GB for propagating and enforcing false teachings. Now I'm a bit angry with God (I'm still a believer though). How could He not see that I was sincere and wanted to be part of his people (if he has a chosen group on earth). Why did he allow me to become part of a false organization?

    Please don't lose your love for God, there is a reason for everything. You would recall your studies about "Why does God allow suffering". Pretty much the same principles apply to religion. This isn't God's world that we are living in at the moment, it is Satan's, he is controlling everything that he can and manipulating us through religion is included. You're anger should be focused at him.

    I don't believe that he is not with many sincere and faithfull JWs and also many others not of that faith. He reads what is in our hearts.

    What is really hard to do initially is seperate your feelings about the GB from God. Their brainwashing had taught us to believe that they were speaking straight from God and they were the only ones that had that chanel between us and him. For many years I felt that because I had left the organization that I had also turned my back on God, they teach us this and it sticks but it is not true at all.

  • yknot
    yknot

    Just my observation......(luvs ya- really-really)

    As a JW I was taught that we were special

    Do you need to feel 'extra special'....... above others?

    It can be difficult to transition back into being 'ordinary' and in theory loved equally by God.

    Life's experiences mold us, being a JW and now exiting the WTS to is molding you.......just let things unravel naturally.

    Stages of grief are common to us all when we exit (mentally/physially/spiritually).

    It gets better.

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