by FrankWTower 20 Replies latest jw friends
Thanks Chalam,
That makes it obvious that JW's would not recognize the good News if it crept up behind them and bit them on the bum !
Of course, if Matt. 24 were really a prophecy , why would be for our time ? And if it was , why would it have any application to a bunch of Cult members who do not read the bible ?
At least if they never hear it, they might be spared.
Not entirely true. The official teaching is that ONLY those who actively support the annointed will be saved.
However, if they did before the great tribulation begins, then God will read their heart as you stated and they might have a chance in the resurrection.
At least that's the 'official' teaching.
And the other irony--JWs do the opposite of what Jesus said. They hear someone saying, "There he is--but he's invisible!" And they go following those people who make their claims. Also, they take wars and reports of wars as a sign of the end's nearness, but Jesus said NOT to get worked up over those things, that that was only the beginning of the pangs of distress, not the end.
Jesus made clear that his return would be like lightning, which isn't something that shows up in a few guys' heads in Brooklyn, it's something that lights up the sky so that everybody sees it, even people inside their homes either see it or feel its impact.
Okay, itsacult. I give up. You win. Itsacult.
--sd-7
Not entirely true. The official teaching is that ONLY those who actively support the annointed will be saved.
You are correct. However, you'll hear JWs throwing around the "reading the hearts" crap if there is a non-JW in their presence, etc.
As you say, however, the dogma is clear, anyone who is not a JW will have their throat slit by Jesus Christ and His Executionary Forces, just around the corner at Armageddon.
If your a real Witness you should sell all you own and move to Bangladesh to Pioneer.....not many do this.
That is not what the CO said a couple of months ago. He said EVERYONE that doesn't receive a witness will be destroyed. He was very clear about it. He said all those in China will probably die. Because IF it was a God reads hearts thing...Why would there be a need for the preaching work?
So glad I am away from these crappy people!
The official teaching on "what about countries were the majority have not heard?" (which, as far as I know, has not changed since then) :
*** w52 6/1 pp. 344-345 Fixing Destinies in This Judgment Period ***
COMMUNITY RESPONSIBILITY
13 In view of the eternalness of the destruction of those slain by
Jehovah at Armageddon, some will ask about those who may not
personally hear the message, especially in some lands that prohibit
the witness work. In addition to family responsibility the Bible shows
a communal or community responsibility, where a community upholds or
goes along with rulers that persecute Jehovah’s people or are
otherwise wicked. Did not the Egyptians suffer plagues because of
Pharaoh’s hardness? (Ex. 5:1, 2; 9:13-16) Did not the Amalekites
suffer for generations afterward because of Amalek’s opposition to
Israel in the wilderness? (Ex. 17:8, 14, 16) King Saul brought trouble
on Israel years after his death. (2 Sam. 21:1) David’s sins brought
punishment upon the people. (2 Sam. 12:10-23; 24:10-17) Some relate
some of this to ruler punishment rather than community responsibility,
but it does show how the sins of one can affect many. It was
unquestionably community responsibility when Achan trespassed and
brought a military defeat on Israel. (Josh. 7:5, 13-21) Wicked men
brought destruction upon the entire city of Gibeah, and those who
supported Gibeah or merely refrained from helping punish her suffered
with her. (Judg. 19:22-30; 20:40; 21:9, 10) Because King Jehoram of
Judah deflected from God the nation went wrong and was punished. (2
Chron. 21:11-15) If idolatry started in a city in Israel and corrupted
the inhabitants the city was destroyed. And other examples could be
given. (Gen. 12:17; 20:9, 17; 26:10; Deut. 13:12-18) Matthew 10:14,
15, 23 shows households or cities that are unreceptive to the message
will find judgment day unendurable. The principle applies on a
national scale also.
14 The people must accept responsibility for the nation’s acts. If the
government becomes too oppressive against them they oust it, by either
ballots or bullets. But wickedness against God they placidly tolerate.
To them personal convenience and liberty are more precious than
godliness. They revolt from harsh rulers, but support godless ones.
They lack the burning love for righteousness and the devouring hate
for wickedness that would consume the corruption and immorality now
rampant in all human governments. Rulers and ruled wallow in the
trough of an international moral breakdown. (2 Tim. 3:1-5) Nations
operate according to the principle of community responsibility. Rulers
may start wars, but the people fight them. It is upon the people
generally, young and old, male and female, that the enemy nation rains
destruction, and not upon the wicked rulers. The nations in their wars
sow death on the basis of community responsibility. Will it not be
just for them to reap it on the same basis at Armageddon? Can they
rightly complain if they reap as they sow, are judged as they judged,
are shown the same mercy they showed? If the people either actively or
passively support what is corrupt and immoral and murderous, do they
not bear some responsibility therefor?—Matt. 5:7; 7:1, 2; Gal. 6:7;
Jas. 2:13.
you'll hear JWs throwing around the "reading the hearts" crap if there is a non-JW in their presence, etc.
Very true. The public explanation at jw-media.org certainly does give that impression (http://www.jw-media.org/aboutjw/article32.htm). SImilar responses given at the door and in courts.
No. Many millions who have lived in centuries past and who were not Jehovah’s Witnesses will come back in a resurrection and have an opportunity for life. Many now living may yet take a stand for truth and righteousness before God’s time of judgment, and they will gain salvation. Moreover, Jesus said that we should not be judging one another. Humans look at the outward appearance; God looks at the heart. He sees accurately and judges mercifully. God has committed judgment into Jesus’ hands, not ours.—Matthew 7:1-5; John 5:22, 27.
Humans look at the outward appearance; God looks at the heart. He sees accurately and judges mercifully. God has committed judgment into Jesus’ hands, not ours
Ya right Watchtower. Look at your own DFing policy, what a bunch of hypocrites.
Do you want to know something ironic? A major reason I was a jw for as long as I was , was because I believed they were fullfilling Matt 24:14 and that proved armageddon and the new world was near! I used to quote the YB Fs and literature distribution report to prove that JWs were the ones fullfilling this prophecy! Yet for all their preaching, billions will most likely never be reached with the "good news" and as was stated- most people have no idea what god's kingdom is or the issue of universal sovereignty.
It would be better to die before being witnessed to and get resurrected into the new world. There was a post somewhere that mentioned how unfair it all is- just a matter of timing. If you happen to die before armageddon you will be resurrected. But if you don't- you are destroyed forever. Just as leavingwt said.
I feel so foolish and embarressed for ever being a jw.
