Should America Apologize For Hiroshima?

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  • Band on the Run
    Band on the Run

    I used to argue with my mom about Hiroshima and Nagasaki. She told me the US was definitely losing the war in the beginning. I always thought that the US had a moral responsibility to demonstrate the bomb publicly to convinced Japan to surrender. More info has made the issue complicated with me. If the U.S., particularly CA was not so racist against Japanese immigrants, things may have been different. It was a two way street. Most people believe that Roosevelt either knew Pearl Harbor was coming for a fact or should have known.

    What changed my mind was when I read that the fire bombings of cities like Berlin and Dresden with conventional bombs killed far more people than Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I just read a bio of Hirohito. A demo probably would not have succeeded in changing the minds of the Japanese authorities. It is so sad that civilians died and paid the price. Tokyo was not nuked. I've also read that despite the Marshall plan in Europe which many Europeans loved and truly admired the US, the victims of the firebombed cities hated the U.S. to the core. They were civilian cities. The extent of the bombing was not necessary for a military strategy.

    I lived downtown Manhattan and once worked one block from the WTC complex. My dry cleaning was done there, clothes shopping, wine shopping, restaurant eating and dating occurred there. I was so terrorized by 9/11. 9/11 was absolutely nothing compared to the war bombing. I feel very different about the blitzkriegs against England now. Living something is very different from reading it or watching a film. NY was hard for me b/c my mind compartalizes my mundane life with NY images and legends. NY was the scene for countless fictional terrorist attacks.

    As long as the WWII generation is alive, there will be no apology.

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips
    I always thought that the US had a moral responsibility to demonstrate the bomb publicly to convinced Japan to surrender.

    I think this would have been a good idea. Drop a nuke in some unpopuated part of Japan to demonstrate it. However, it would not have worked, it seems to me. We nuked Hiroshima and they still didn't surrender. It took 2 nukes.

    From what I understand, the Dresden bombing did little to further the Allied cause.

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  • james_woods
    james_woods
    As long as the WWII generation is alive, there will be no apology.

    Aside from the fact that I feel no apology is necessary or proper -

    If the WWII generation (most especially, those that made the decision) did not make the apology, then what good is it?

  • zeroday*
    zeroday*

    The US only had 2 nukes at the time of Hiroshima and would not have been able to produce another one for about 1 year. The Japanese didn't know that so who's to say if one was used for a demonstration and one over a city that the Japanese would have surrendered...After the second bomb was dropped as far as the Japanese knew the US had more and was willing to use them thus then surrender...Just my opinion.

  • ProdigalSon
    ProdigalSon

    America should apologize for instigating the war with Japan in the first place. FDR blockaded their oil for no good reason, which is an act of war. He knew the Japanese would respond with an attack on Pearl Harbor, and then stood down and let it happen.

    We can't put all the blame on him though. He was quoted as saying that the people who are really calling the shots are invisible and behind the scenes.

    Everybody from Standard Oil to Ford Motor Co. to the Vatican stood to gain from a long and drawn out WWII. Hitler letting the British escape from Dunkirk is all the proof I need.

  • james_woods
    james_woods
    The US only had 2 nukes at the time of Hiroshima and would not have been able to produce another one for about 1 year.

    My best information on that subject is that although only the 2 were assembled at the time, the U.S. was on track for production of 5 more by December of 1945. Remember that the first three were produced only after a lenghy preparation period of creating the production facilities, and that they were in constant production by August 1945.

    America should apologize for instigating the war with Japan in the first place. FDR blockaded their oil for no good reason, which is an act of war. He knew the Japanese would respond with an attack on Pearl Harbor, and then stood down while he let it happen.

    Hell, yeah - FDR should have just given the Japanese the Hawaiian Islands in the first place, along with the Phillipines and Australia. China, too.

    We should say we are sorry that he didn't.

  • thetrueone
    thetrueone

    It must be realized that Japan invaded China and other nations prior to attacking the States in Pearl Harbor.

    The US was well aware of what Japan had done in the Eastern regions. To cull the US into a state of war was the biggest

    blunder militarily speaking, totally underestimating the resources the US had or were capable of creating.

    Similar to when Hitler invaded Russia.

  • BurnTheShips
    BurnTheShips

    "Rape of Nanking"

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  • JeffT
    JeffT

    Prodigalson: where did you get that nonsense?

    As to the demonstration idea, if the Japanese high command wanted to know what the US Army Air Force could do to them, all they had to do was look out the window. By August 1945 50% of Tokyo had been burned to the ground. Across the bay almost 60% of Yokohama was gone. ("A Torch to the Enemy" Martin Caidin, Ballantine Books, 1960, appendix).

    The Japanese have yet to acknowledge much of what they did in the war, atrocities in China (I see a couple of you beat me to citing Iris Chang's Rape of Nanking), the Korean comfort women, treatment of POW's etc.

    No we have nothing to apologize for.

  • thetrueone
    thetrueone

    Quite frankly Hirohito got off scott free, he should been brought before a world court for crimes against humanity,

    similar to what happened to the ranking members of Hitler's regime.

    In hindsight it may have been better to have given Japan an example of the might and devastation of a nuclear bomb right

    at Tokyo's doorstep first and waited for a response and after few days if no reply to surrender appeared then drop one on a city.

    But in the actual theater of warfare these are difficult decisions to make, especially when a bomb of that might has never been

    dropped on a heavily populated city before.

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