Congresswoman Shot in Tucson

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  • DanaBug
    DanaBug
    There is a double standard at play, but we already know that. It's when they start exploiting a heinous massacre for partisan purposes before emergency personnel can even arrive on the scene (and before anyone even knows any facts) that it becomes truly screwed up.

    This is true. There's no proof that Loughner was right wing or particularly interested in politics. But notice how people have made the connection between the shooting and the rhetoric we've heard the past few years. Doesn't that suggest something's wrong? And both sides are to blame.

    One thing we can take from this: In the end, it doesn't matter what Loughner's politics were, what matters is we recognize that violence doesn't work, gets us no where, and disgusts all of us. That includes violent words. It's time for both sides to calm down, shut up, and start listening. I'm interested to see who actually does that.

  • VIII
    VIII

    DanaBug said:

    It's time for both sides to calm down, shut up, and start listening.

    Start listening to who?

  • DaCheech
    DaCheech
    Or did Castro turn you out of a manicomio in 1980

    Bergen Pines

  • DanaBug
    DanaBug

    It's time for both sides to calm down, shut up, and start listening.

    Start listening to who?

    In a democracy, the people they represent. No one's been listening to us for a very long time.

  • NeckBeard
    NeckBeard

    BACKFIRED!

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2011-01-12-poll-ariz-shooting_N.htm?csp=34news

    Poll: Conservatives not to blame for Ariz. shooting

    WASHINGTON — Most Americans reject the idea that inflammatory political language by conservatives should be part of the debate about the forces behind the Arizona shooting that left six people dead and a congresswoman in critical condition, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds.

    A 53% majority of those surveyed call that analysis mostly an attempt to use the tragedy to make conservatives look bad. About a third, 35%, say it is a legitimate point about how dangerous language can be.

    And there is little sense that stricter gun control laws in Arizona might have averted the tragedy. Only one in five say they would have prevented the shooting; 72% say tighter controls wouldn't have prevented it.

    Meanwhile, former Alaska governor Sarah Palin posted a statement and a video on her Facebook page denouncing criticism that she bore some responsibility for the assassination attempt on Rep. Gabrielle Giffords. The congresswoman was one of 20 congressional Democratswhom Palin had targeted for defeat in November's elections on a map showing their congressional districts in cross hairs.

    "Within hours of a tragedy unfolding, journalists and pundits should not manufacture a blood libel that serves only to incite the very hatred and violence they purport to condemn," Palin wrote. "This is reprehensible."

    Sarah Palin wins!

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    Bill Maher <----- Not a big fan of the 2nd Amendement.

    "If you love guns, just admit it -- like it's a vice," Maher said. "It's like alcohol or drugs or sex addiction or gambling... It's not good for you or anyone else, but you like it."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/12/bill-maher-leno-nra-gun_n_807914.html

  • BizzyBee
    BizzyBee
    Sarah Palin wins!

    USA did not say that. However, it does say:

    Fifty-three percent say Republicans and their supporters have gone too far in using inflammatory language; 51% say that of Democrats; 49% say it of Tea Party supporters.

    The poll of 1,002 adults, taken Tuesday, has a margin of error of 4 percentage points.

    J Street, a political organization for Jews and supporters of Israel, criticized Palin's choice of words.

    "The term 'blood libel' brings back painful echoes of a very dark time in our communal history when Jews were falsely accused of committing heinous deeds," Jeremy Ben-Ami, J Street president, said in a statement. "When Governor Palin learns that many Jews are pained by and take offense at the use of the term, we are sure that she will choose to retract her comment, apologize and make a less inflammatory choice of words."

    Palin fails.

  • DaCheech
    DaCheech

    I just gotta laugh at the pettiness.

    first she's responsible for deaths, and now she's a jew hater/disrespecter

  • villabolo
    villabolo

    DanaBug: "It's time for both sides to calm down, shut up, and start listening."

    How dare you speak to the victims as if they are equally culpable.

    Villabolo

  • whereami
    whereami

    Bill Maher
    <----- Not a big fan of the 2nd Amendement.
    "If you love guns, just admit it -- like it's a vice," Maher said. "It's like alcohol or drugs or sex addiction or gambling... It's not good for you or anyone else, but you like it."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/12/bill-maher-leno-nra-gun_n_807914.html

    Here's the actual interview/video

    Quality not the best:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTy9UyuPG-Y

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