The 2nd Coming has already been proved to be a mistake (page 2)

myelaine

dear Terry...

you asked: "What would a REASONABLE person conclude?"...

thank you for asking...:)

It's not out of the question that God could resurrect the generation that pierced Jesus at any time He chooses.

love michelle

moshe

Hmm, elderlite, I see the beginnings of a KH talk with some sarcasm thrown in!! I can see why the art of sarcasm was NEVER taught in the KM school.

Good points all, Terry- I don't recall hearing much of that topic in the Sunday church sermons, either.

Larsinger58

The 2nd coming must fulfill three chronology prophecies:

1) The "7 times" prophecy; 2520 years after the correct date for the fall of Jerusalem.

2) The "1335 days" (Daniel 12), which is 45 years after the end of the gentile times (1947).

3) During mid 70th week of the final 490 years (70 weeks) counted from 36 CE.

The WTS got the 1914 date incorrect because of faulty, revised chronology during the Persian Period which redated events during the Neo-Babylonian Period while removing some 26 years from that timeline in order to expand the rulerships of Persian kings. During the time of Nebuchadnezzar, this distortion is 57 years. The VAT4956 astrotext hides the original chronology for year 37 of Nebuchadnezzar 2 to 511 BCE and thus year 19

falls in 529 BCE. That means the 2nd coming should have occurred in 1992.

2520-607=1913+1=1914

2520-529=1991 +1 = 1992

Of course, 45 years plus 1947 is 1992 as well.

Counting from 36 CE which ends 490 years, we count 4 periods of 70 weeks, 1960 years ending in 1996. That means 1996 ends the final 70th week during which the second coming occurs prior to the mid-week passover, which occurs on April 6, 1993. So even the "70th week" chronology points to 1992-1993 as the year of the second coming.

The question is, did it actually occur? The Bible says Christ would arrive in the clouds and that "every eye would see him" but that is only of the elect, not the entire world. He comes in great secrecy like a "thief in the night" for most of the world, so his advent would not be that obvious to those looking at the wrong time and place. Bottom line, if you were not chosen to be aware of the second coming it would not be visible to you anyway. Key to this point, though is that ARMAGEDDON and the second coming are two different events! Read the Bible!

The basics are that Christ comes secretly to the world at the time Satan is kicked out of heaven down to the earth. Then there is an interval of time that occurs while Satan prepares the nations for the Armageddon showdown and while Christ's angels gather and seal the elect. It is not stated in the Bible how long this interval is. Thus the fact that Armageddon didn't occur in 1992 doesn't mean Christ did not secretly arrive to his secret followers that year.

Beyond that, the Bible does note that Armageddon will occur 15 months ("a time and a season"-Dan 7) after the 4th beast is killed, which represents Babylon the Great. This happens after Christ as sealed his elect and thus has been in the earth in secret for a while. As the Bible says, Christ arrives while the world is asleep. When they realize he has already arrived it is as if he came as a thief in the night. At any rate, Armageddon is not linked to the 2nd coming, a consistent false understanding. The 2nd coming is dated in the Bible to 1992, but not Armageddon. Armageddon will come 15 months after BTG/Federal Reserve/Illuminati-based bankers, etc. are destroyed by the U.N. and the U.N. takes over world government. So even when the U.N. takes over world government per the Bible, Armageddon will not occur until 15 months or less from that time.

So you could say, instead of "any day now", that Armageddon will come 15 months from any day now. That is, the destruction of BTG and the world takeover by the UN is consistent with a global economic collapse which could easily happen again "any day now". The world's focus is on economic survival. When the economic crash occurs again the Federal Reserve will not survive it and apparently the UN will establish a new global economic authority which all nations will submit to, including the United States, which has little choice since it is now bankrupt, etc.

So everything in the Bible is happening right on schedule, but you have to read the Bible carefully and have the correct chronology, of course. Even so, even a casual reading should demonstrate that the 2nd coming and Armageddon are two different events. Christ returns and has to seal the elect prior to Armageddon, during which time Satan is still active in the world. The 2nd coming sets up Christ's rule in hevaen, but not in the earth. He rules "in the midst of his enemies" for a short while. 20 years is half a generation of 40 years which will expire on December 25, 2012. That is still 15+ months away.

The Bible says Armageddon would seem 'delayed" but will not be late, meaning it will happen at the last possible moment. Those elect who witnessed the second coming in 1992, of course, are not that concerned about the fulfillment of the rest of Bible events which have all occurred on time thus far.

IN SUMMARY:

1. Armageddon and the 2nd coming are NOT the same event.

2. The 2nd coming occurred in 1992. Armageddon is not dated in the Bible other than 15 months after the U.N. takes over world rule and destroys the "4th Beast" (i.e. the Federal Reserve, CFR, etc. now manipulating the U.N. as the Bible prophesied it would.)

LS58

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