I'm a very happy witness of Jehovah

by ELPIRO 216 Replies latest jw friends

  • diamondiiz
    diamondiiz

    Hello Elpiro

    Just I find it odd that someone claiming to believe that WTS is God's organization and that you're anointed visiting an apostate site. Not only does your organization forbid you from visiting sites like this they also forbid you from even saying hello to those that have left watchtower, so how is it you can come here and feel safe that you have wts blessing?

    Stating you are happy witness doesn't mean much. Since there are many happy, yet delusional witnesses which can be said for any devout individual - be it Catholic or a Muslim. As for stating that witnesses follow the bible, well, wouldn't Catholics also say the same? Witnesses follow the leaders in Brooklyn who tell you what to believe and use whatever scriptures they deem useful to state the case which after all is same as all other religions. Bible uses YHWH name throughout the Hebrew scriptures and yet there is NO EVIDENCE of it being in Greek scriptures and yet wts ASSumes that it belongs there, how do you feel about that? How do you feel about false dates that wts teaches? First they taught 1874 as Jesus' return for some 50 years and then they revised it to 1914. They taught Jerusalem was destroyed in 606BCE and that Babylon was conquered by Cyrus in 536BCE and now they teach Cyrus destroyed Babylon in 539BC and Jerusalem fell in 607BC? WTS claims that faithful and discrete slave was chosen in 1919 based on 1914 calculations while 1914 is a sham. If you examine the history you won't find any evidence for 607BC on which the whole wts' dates rely. So you're saying that watchtower is basing their teachings on the bible alone and are guided by God's Spirit? Examine the evidence and use your mind do discern fact from fiction.

    Being happy doesn't mean you know the truth and if you're happy, good for you, especially if truth isn't what you're after. People who were in many other cult were/are happy as well - so what? You claim witnesses don't hurt other witnesses in war - so what? How many witnesses have been found to molest one of their own? How many witnesses have killed one of their own? How many have cheated on their spouses with one of their own? So are witnesses so much better than Catholics just because they don't go to war? Really? Truth may be hidden in your world or delusion but the facts are out there that show beyond a doubt that watchtower isn't a paradise they claim to be. Think about it.

  • pontoon
    pontoon

    Lion CasK, that post rates way up there with Outlaw's posts

  • miseryloveselders
    miseryloveselders

    being an elder and posting on an apostate website is one thing, being of the annointed and posting on an apostate website is a completely different matter. Elders come in all shapes, sizes, and colors. The same goes without saying regarding their background. An elder appointed in congregation A, might not get appointed in congregation B. Just because someone is an elder, doesn't automatically make him one of the cream of the crop. I mean that in the sense of doctrination. Many who get appointed, get such due to popularity, nepotism, and in some cases...sympathy. Sympathy as in he's been wanting to be an elder for the past twenty years, what the hell, lets let him be an elder.

    The other thing is, most elders are average fellas. They watch the football game, drink a few brews, have families, hold down full time jobs, yadda yadda yadda. Most DO NOT claim that by supreme revelation they recieved a calling from a supernatural means telling them they're going to have privileges in the spiritual realm. Think about what that means. If you recieved confirmation supernaturally that you were going to serve next to Christ in the heavenly realm in the very, very near future and that this organization was on the right track.......would you post on Satan's message board forum?

  • thetrueone
    thetrueone

    the witnesses are the only ones that don't war one against the other of the same religion,

    Another misconception (Lie) there are many religious faiths that are anti-military and will not go to war of any kind.

    A fictitious lie to make the JWS organization appear special and unique

    ELPIRO for full of anointed Bullshit

  • ablebodiedman
    ablebodiedman

    ElPiro,

    When studying 2nd Thessalonians Chapter 2 consider these questions:

    1/ Is it the true Christian Temple or the false Christian temple that gets undermined by a "man of lawlessness"?

    2/ Are Jehovah's Witnesses and their faithful and discreet slave in the true Christian Temple?

    3/ Is Satan successful because he undermined false religion or true religion?

    4/ If Satan is to undermine false religion then why did Paul bother warning those Christians who would be around immediately before Jesus Christ returns at the conclusion of the system of things?


    Do the Watchtower Publications REALLY answer those pertinent questions?


    Why not?

  • ablebodiedman
    ablebodiedman

    ElPiro,

    Here is another very important scripture in the bible which comes with a command from Jesus Christ:

    Luke 21:7-8
    He said: “Look out that YOU are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The due time has approached.’ Do not go after them.

    Here are some questions:


    1/ Has the Watchtower Society and its Governing body ever claimed to speak for Jesus Christ?

    2/ Has the Watchtower Society and its Governing body ever announced that; "the due time has approached"?

    3/ Is it more important to obey Jesus Christ, or the men who claim to speak on his behalf?

  • ablebodiedman
    ablebodiedman

    ElPiro,

    Here is another interesting bible study:

    Matthew 28:17-20
    And Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.


    Questions:

    1/ Has the Watchtower Society and its Governing Body obeyed Jesus Christs baptismal commandment?

    2/ If the Watchtower Society has changed the baptismal commandment will Jesus Christ still be: "with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things"?

    3/ Do the baptismal vows enter the actual Christian Temple?

    4/ If they do, then is it possible that a name representing "mere men" might also enter in among those vows?

    5/ If so, could those men be; "the sons of perdition" or modern day "called ones" who have lifted themselves up and publicly shown that they are also gods?

  • ablebodiedman
    ablebodiedman

    ElPiro,

    Acts 4:12
    Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.


    Question:

    1/ Has the Watchtower Society insisted that another name under heaven has been given for which salvation is essential?

    2/ What is that name?

  • THE GLADIATOR
    THE GLADIATOR
    Almost all of your other posts are damn near bullseyes, Gladiator, but this one missed the mark.

    Thanks Lion Cast - but this time I was aiming for the bullshit!

  • ablebodiedman
    ablebodiedman

    ElPiro,

    Here is another interesting Bible Study:

    Luke 12:49-50
    “I came to start a fire on the earth, and what more is there for me to wish if it has already been lighted? 50 Indeed, I have a baptism with which to be baptized, and how I am being distressed until it is finished!


    Questions:

    1/ For how long should Jesus Christs baptismal commandment be obeyed?

    2/ When is Jesus Christs baptismal commandment finished?

    3/ Has the Watchtower Society and its Governing Body done anything to Jesus Christs baptismal commandment which might cause him distress?

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