Shocking if True: Muslim Inbreeding

by metatron 33 Replies latest jw friends

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  Palimpsest

  The reality is that cousin marriage was very common the 1600s and 1700s in America, and it didn't really start to taper off until the 1800s. Anyone who's done even the slightest bit of genealogical research in colonial New England or Virginia, for example, knows you can't get away from it. Even among the upper-class Boston Brahmins, it was fairly routine. So the Americans who get creeped out and think, "Well, I'm not inbred" might want to rethink that one...

  In any case, bohm gets it right. This is one of the classic accusations thrown at any "scary" group on the rise. And I have to say that if there's any country in the world with a clear agenda against Muslims right now, it's Denmark.

  Also, I'm probably not going to get my information on this subject from a gold and silver forum...
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  PSacramento

  At every moment the individual would be part of a large breeding group.

  How so?

  How would nomadic farmers or hunter-gathers be part of a large group?

  I mean, by large to do mean in the dozens or hundreds?

  I don't think that, untill "MAN" started to migrate and meet up with other "MAN", there must have been that much variety to choose from.
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  bohm

  PS: As usual, the answer is a "depends". Long story short: With sexual recombination, there is a minimal size of the gene pool which -- if it is smaller than that -- it will tend to detoriate genetically. This is known as mutational meltdown

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutational_meltdown
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  PSacramento

  Bohm,

  Read that before.

  Of course we are just speculating since we really don't know, but it is even possible that, when the gene pool was smaller and more homogenous that we were able to "inbreed" with far less isssue and as we evolved ( or at least our genes did) natural selection dictated that variety was far more beneficial than a smaller and less varied gene pool.
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  mrsjones5

  In any case, bohm gets it right. This is one of the classic accusations thrown at any "scary" group on the rise. And I have to say that if there's any country in the world with a clear agenda against Muslims right now, it's Denmark.

  I guess that's partly what's bothering me about this thread. The not too subtle poke at a group for imbreeding when something like that isn't new even in so-called elite groups.
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  BurnTheShips

  As long as they don't start producing human/goat hybrids. (Although some Muslims men do tend to favor scraggly chin whiskers. Could they be hiding horn buds ubder those turbans?)

  ‘Most Beautiful Goat’ Competition Underway in Saudi Arabia

  Isn't she lovely?

  
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  mrsjones5

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  bohm

  PS: Compared to the chimp we are a bunch of extremely inbread monkeys due to the genetic bottleneck humanity experienced.

  the structure of small tribes of humans which we evolved in (as have all great apes) will actually produce quite greater varaity due to genetic drift; i think that if anything our society will produce far less varaity than what would be natural.

  In short, I think the problem with islam is not rooted in population genetics but with how fucked up islam is and these guys actually take it seriously; a good dose of Dogbert will do them a hell of a lot more good than what this right-winged retard* is proposing between the lines. asides, its a logistic nightmare to orchestra a proper mass murder.

  * I have heard about the party he belong to through friends in denmark, its a rather big issue in scandinavia. If you read their party program, its clear they are nationalists and they believe in a socialist state. i will let that stand.
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  Band on the Run

  Inbreeding is bad for culture. Besides the genes problem, most societies place great value on extending their contact and affiliations with outside groups to prosper. Various cultures have different rules about how distant relations must be. There is also the incest taboo. Trade is important. Isolated groups do not exist long. Creating family ties through marriage is essential. The rules can be arbitrary concerning marriage but there is a common link.

  I've heard genetic problems argued both ways. Some Christians inbreed, some Jews do (Tay Sachs is the result). Every group must have a very small core that inbreeds. West Virginia and retardation rates stand out. People only marry for love in recent times. Cousin marriages bring no extra benefits to the group. I've also read that there was not much retardation when the Egyptian pharoahs married their sisters in many,many consecutive generations.
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  Broken Promises

  Cousin marriages bring no extra benefits to the group.

  One advantage of cousins marrying is the retention of property, heirlooms etc within the family. By marrying cousins, family property can be kept within the family, rather than having the danger of losing it to outsiders.