What do people/souls do in heaven?

by David Gladden 13 Replies latest jw friends

  • JanH
    JanH

    Mark Twain's "Letters from Earth" (#2) contains a hilarious discussion of how xtians perceive heaven.

    "His heaven is like himself: strange, interesting, astonishing, grotesque. I give you my word, it has not a single feature in it that he actually values. It consists -- utterly and entirely -- of diversions which he cares next to nothing about, here in the earth, yet is quite sure he will like them in heaven. Isn't it curious? Isn't it interesting? You must not think I am exaggerating, for it is not so. I will give you details.

    Most men do not sing, most men cannot sing, most men will not stay when others are singing if it be continued more than two hours. Note that.

    Only about two men in a hundred can play upon a musical instrument, and not four in a hundred have any wish to learn how. Set that down.

    Many men pray, not many of them like to do it. A few pray long, the others make a short cut.

    More men go to church than want to.
    ...
    In man's heaven everybody sings! The man who did not sing on earth sings there; the man who could not sing on earth is able to do it there. The universal singing is not casual, not occasional, not relieved by intervals of quiet; it goes on, all day long, and every day, during a stretch of twelve hours. And everybody stays; whereas in the earth the place would be empty in two hours.
    ...
    Meantime, every person is playing on a harp -- those millions and millions! -- whereas not more than twenty in the thousand of them could play an instrument in the earth, or ever wanted to.

    Consider the deafening hurricane of sound -- millions and millions of voices screaming at once and millions and millions of harps gritting their teeth at the same time! I ask you: is it hideous, is it odious, is it horrible?

    Consider further: it is a praise service; a service of compliment, of flattery, of adulation! Do you ask who it is that is willing to endure this strange compliment, this insane compliment; and who not only endures it, but likes it, enjoys it, requires if, commands it? Hold your breath!

    It is God! This race's god, I mean. He sits on his throne, attended by his four and twenty elders and some other dignitaries pertaining to his court, and looks out over his miles and miles of tempestuous worshipers, and smiles, and purrs, and nods his satisfaction northward, eastward, southward; as quaint and nave a spectacle as has yet been imagined in this universe, I take it.

    It is easy to see that the inventor of the heavens did not originate the idea, but copied it from the show-ceremonies of some sorry little sovereign State up in the back settlements of the Orient somewhere."

    See http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/twainlfe.htm#2 It's much longer than this.

    - Jan
    --
    The believer is happy. The doubter is wise.

  • sunscapes
    sunscapes

    "Heaven" is just simply another dimension whereby our spiritual selves exit our body and become another form of energy. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. According to much of the study in the metaphysical community, there could be as many as 11 dimensions--maybe more. Time is unique to our dimension. Just as in our dimension, spirit entities have all kinds of degrees of benevolence towards themselves and us.

    Just my "paradigm" (20 cents) worth.

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Dave

    While i can't speak from experience, i've read some books by people who do a type of astro travel. It's monroe institute. They give courses in brainwave alteration w sound frequencies. In books written by people who went there, they describe going to dimensions that people commonly call heaven. They describe evrything we have on earth, plus a lot more. Basically, the spirit of the deceased chooses what it wants, like a self judgement.

    For instance, a person who is always happy and positive would choose a happy, positive environment. Spirits of people who were fixated on booze, for instance would likely choose to stay earthbound, hanging around bars. A sex maniac spirit could choose to go to the sex dimension and have sex till eternity, or he/she got tired of it. Then he/she would be popped out of it, and able to go to a higher level. Etc etc This is my theory.

    SS

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Dave

    Nde's (near death) experiences can give you some ideas too. There are collections of them on the net.

    SS

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