Dinner With a Pioneer Couple Last Night

by dontplaceliterature 37 Replies latest jw friends

  • dontplaceliterature
    dontplaceliterature

    My wife and I had dinner with a Pioneer couple last night that we've been friends with for a long time. They are both nice people, with the wife having a few dashes of pretentiousness mixed in.

    Usually when we are together, they always talk about pioneering, which makes some sense as it's the primary focus of thier lives. However, it has gotten progressively more dominate in conversation over the last couple of years, to the point of being annoying. I'm not sure if they feel like they are encouranging my wife and I to pioneer by bringing it up so much, or if they are just trying to pat themselves on the back by constantly reminding everyone how hard they are working in the ministry. This dynamic has lead to the corrosion of a good friendship and we really aren't together with them much anymore.

    Last night, they mentioned at least 8 (maybe more) times their struggle to stay on their hour schedule. Comments were made like this: "I would like to sleep in and make cookies tomorrow, but I need to go in service before the meeting or I won't get my 70 hours this month."

    It took all I had to bite my tounge and not blurt out the fact that Jehovah doesn't give a diddly squat if they get their 70 hours or not, because most of it would have been a waste of time driving around and knocking on Not-At-Home doors.

    Has anyone else noticed that pioneers complain about their hour requirement regularly?

  • DeeDubs
    DeeDubs

    No, Im df'd...they dont talk to me

  • Amelia Ashton
    Amelia Ashton

    I think they are angling for company (not so bad) or the use of some-one elses petrol (gasoline) as their's is getting low! Sorry to be so cynical.

  • Broken Promises
    Broken Promises

    Back in my day pioneers had to get in 90 hours a month. These guys are wusses, lol!

    Even as a JW, I used to think, "there's no time regulation in the Bible, so who's to say how many hours a "pioneer" is supposed to do?"

    Maybe as a reply to their constant references to pioneering, you and your wife can talk about all the interesting, fulfilling things you get to do in your life, as opposed to their boring pioneering!

  • Will Power
    Will Power

    Maybe they are desparately looking for someone to say " why don't you sleep in and baked those cookies "

    and to make the cookies guilt free why not take them to an old age home, or a shelter or .... so many more places would welcome cookies before a magazine

    wp

  • acolytes
    acolytes

    Pioneers are not free to make their own decisions.If their is a God the gift of making our own decisions is his great gift to mankind.

    Do pioneers ever complain about the ineffective methods they must use in the ministry?

    Do they complain that they are teaching people to obseve a lot of man made rules,made by people and mandated as necessary for salvation.

    Yet pioneers want admiration for the hours they put in each month. The complaining is simply a guilt trip on you or seeking approval-

    Acolytes

  • Finally-Free
    Finally-Free

    When I pioneered we had to get 90 hours a month, and getting our time was always the topic of conversation. We were obscessed with it.

    If your friend wants to sleep in and make cookies, why not put in only 65 hours a month? That would allow one Saturday a month for sleeping in and making cookies. (I baked cookies yesterday, and they were out of the oven in 10 minutes. It really doesn't take that long)

    Of course, she wouldn't be a regular pioneer anymore if she did that. No more title and a loss of prestiege in the congregation. Unthinkable! Because that's really what pioneering is all about - title and self promotion.

    If the watchtower scrapped the pioneer arrangement, how many of those people would still put in the time without the title? Very few.

    W

  • besty
    besty
    If the watchtower scrapped the pioneer arrangement, how many of those people would still put in the time without the title? Very few.

    word.

  • jookbeard
    jookbeard

    I bet you must have lost the will to live spending an evening with these 2 bigoted,zealots

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt
    However, it has gotten progressively more dominate in conversation over the last couple of years, to the point of being annoying.

    They have perhaps always been like this. The difference is that you now know they are slaving away for a bogus cause/purpose. The more you awaken, the less you'll enjoy being with any JWs.

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