Anthony Morris the third of the GB: A bitter old man! (his talk on so called apostates, etc) (page 2)

brotherdan

And did you notice all the comments from the good dubs? They LOVED the talk!

When he starts talking about the child abuse, that's where it gets sick. He says that they hate child abuse then says "BUT we hold to the scriptures, and frankly there have been some fine men that have been falsely accused. But because we went by the scriptures they were proven innocent." What a way to justify!

Notice at around the 28:00 mark he talks about reading about someone on an apostate site that says they are trying to "hang on" so that they can help others to see the truth.

I've been promising myself not to get angry...but I am livid after listening to this talk. It's sick. I just can't express how sick I feel over this talk. I'm not sick over sensationalist apostate material. I am sick over the lies of this GB member.

Then he talks about Satan being the Father of the apostates. I read that Satan was the father of the lie. Sounds like he doesn't know his own father.

brotherdan

At 38:50 it sounds like he's saying that Jesus too said he was a good for nothing slave... Sort of shows the view of the GB against Jesus.

maninthemiddle

BrotherDan, regarding the Slave comment, could he have meant to speak of Paul saying he was a Slave of Christ, not, sure, i didn;t catch it clearly, I will go back to it.

I like how Silent Lambs get a mention by name, that is a small plus. "someone who used to be in writing", was that a jab at Barbra Anderson?

Funny though, he hits everyone of Steve Hassan's BITE items during this talk.

Remember the "too busy to sin" comment?

maninthemiddle

You thank God the faithful and descreet slave's got you so busy, because you are staying out of trouble...

immorality is the number one way the birdcatcher takes people out, the majority that ends up disfellowshipped or reproved ...not repentent, immorality.

[speaking of child abuse] to compare us to these other organzations that move people around is a lie

questions can be helpful, but they can also be very destructive..[..] something happens in the brain [..] she was already weakend

this is her [Eve's] deliberate sin, that's why she'll be dead forever, this is one time you can talk about your relatives, what a mess they brought upon us.

Satan's [the serpent] offer was higher learning, (higher learning said again with much emphasis)

Apostates pick up one lie from each other and then pass it around as truth.

(speaking about the Watchtower) you need to get in a habit of reading these things as fast as you can, this is your food...our food

Jesus said we are all good for nothing slaves...doing what we oughta do..i remember one sister...she was Bragging on us, she was going a little too much on the glory stuff..I said we are just good for nothing slaves...and she said "don't say such a thing"...and I said "well thats what jesus said", "no he didn't', now she was new in the truth don't get too worried, she wasn't in too long anyway, I said open your bible and look there

speaking of pride... looking at the orgional greek it means to smoke, to be wrapped in smoke, i can;t see you clearly and you can't see me clearly, you have three elders sitting there teaching you and you are wrapped in smoke, walk out of the room like "dummys!".. sit in the kingdom hall and the bird catcher says ohh, i'm going to take you out..but I going to use you for a little while first, to discourage and disrupt as much as I can. it's happened tpo elders, sometime they have got a lot of privledges and they start acting like they deserve it and they start mistreating people.

here are a few notes for people who can't listen to it, I wish I could type better I would do more.

jamiebowers

I can't bring myself to listen to or read anything Watchtower related, as it literally makes me sick to my stomach. But could someone explain exactly how this took place?

He says that they hate child abuse then says "BUT we hold to the scriptures, and frankly there have been some fine men that have been falsely accused. But because we went by the scriptures they were proven innocent.

How were these "fine men" prove innocent?

Joliette

I shoulda added: Theres nothing wrong with being old or older, it just that he sounds really bitter and dry throughout the whole talk. And he's making an assumption about everyone who not a JW's anymore. Oh yeah, I forgot-Everyone who isnt a JW'S is against God.

jookbeard

the bit he speaks about the brother on a business seminar and ends up ina compromising situation with a lady on the course, Morris kept banging on about Satan this,Satan that,Satans got you where he wants you,Satans crafty/devious, lets just run a couple of things the brother may have been planning in having an affair for months,he may be desperately unhappy in his marriage, this seminar may have been the highlight of his year,how the hell does he know what this brothers thinking,he may not be able to stand the sight of his wife,maybe he's in an abusive relationship and his JW wife is abusive! he makes so many pointless self opinionated generalizations.

Joliette

^ Yeah thats another thing, generalizations.

The watchtower is known for this, and thats my biggest problem with them. And then the whole satan concept thing gets my nerves too. How do you know the devil isnt decieving you?

Did anyone hear the comments he made about pornography.

Anthony Morris the third of the GB: A bitter old man! (his talk on so called apostates, etc)

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