Good on you AlmightyDog
I committed un-suicide yesterday
by AlmightyDog 35 Replies latest watchtower medical
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DesirousOfChange
R&R - If you don't report field service time Jehovah's doesn't recognize you anyway,
Used to be policy to retain Publisher Record Cards for 8 years.
Thus 8 years with no report and the Cong didn't recognize you either. (Total Fade?)
I think policy has changed on that. Can anyone advise??
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Alfred
In my 35 years or so in the cult, I never carried mine... everytime they gave out new ones, I'd throw mine out as soon as I got home after the meeting... I always felt that Jehovah would forgive me if I ever took a blood transfusion (which thankfully I've never had to)... I've always found the whole thing completely ridiculous... I guess I was never really "spiritual"...
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ocd
"Please commit un-suicide with me"
Never filled out a blood card....my ONLY smart move since my "cult"ivation.
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cyberjesus
awesome
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Scully
RULES & REGULATIONS:
My mom was in the hospital 2 years with internal bleeding and a very low blood count. The Doctor was told by my mom and the HLC members that no blood was to be used if a blood transfusion was needed. I told the Doctor that there was no way my mom would change her mind about accepting a blood transfusion and that she was prepared to die since she was a Jehovah's Witness. I respected her wishes. I didn't agree with her decision but it is her life and that she has a right to her beliefs.
Luckily she stopped bleeding and left the hospital after 2 weeks.
I'm not suggesting that anyone disregard an active JWs wishes to refuse blood transfusions.
My concern is for people attempting to fade, who would accept a blood transfusion. If YOUR PERSONAL hospital records have that little "JW" flag attached to them in the medical records system, the hospital staff have an obligation to treat you as if you were a JW. They do not want a lawsuit on their hands for administering a blood transfusion to a patient who has declared themselves to be a JW. Your best bet, if you do not want HLC members masquerading as part of the hospital's Pastoral Care Team having access to you when you are in the hospital, is to have any references to the JWs removed from your demographic information. That way you won't show up on the hospital's census when the Pastoral Care Team / HLC Elders™ request a list of all JWs admitted to hospital at the time of their visit. They do this. They are authorized by the hospital to have that kind of access to your medical records. (I know this can happen because after specifically REFUSING "pastoral visits" following the birth of my youngest, an HLC member, wearing a hospital issued badge, barged into my private hospital room AFTER visiting hours - and after a meeting at the KH, pulled back the curtain and caught an eyeful of me breastfeeding. Even though I was still a JW at the time, I was very upset at the intrusion.)
Long story short: If you don't want them finding you in hospital, don't leave electronic breadcrumbs for them to follow.
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jeckle
for the last few years i havent got one funny thing is ive technically only stopped going a year or so ago and finally iadmitted its fraud the last few months it seems subcontiously i must have known long ago
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MrFreeze
I got rid of the card several months before I left the organization. Anytime I would open my wallet in front of JW's I would hide where my card would have been from them.
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chase
eff it. give my organs to some other chump. just give the liver some booze, ittl take care of ya. i am also takin bids for organ harvesting. it is a chaser wholesale, everything must go. if you need bigger stones, ill sell you some. they are clean.
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alias
Okay, I still have my No Blood Card, reactivating it over a year ago when I *went back* to make sure of all things. My whole life has been indoctrinated with how bad blood transfusions are for medical reasons (not just for the JW abstain from blood scripture reason) and of course I've watched the JW No Blood video which promotes alternatives as a norm, unlike in the past. I walk away from that thinking, "I don't want anyone else's stuff in my body that can make me sick."
I know my JW upbringing plays a primarily into it, but I'd like to 'unlearn' this mindset, so to speak, if possible if there is a line of reasoning I haven't considered. I don't embrace the JW reasons for no blood, but (as I'm fading, again) still think having the card and insisting on alternatives is more safe, the better solution for me. Phobic, could be. Paranoid, possibly.
I know this is a personal decision, and in a life-threatening one my mindset would obviously be different... my hubby is a card-carrying member, so I know I have to decide something.
Can anyone help me out with this struggle? It's got to be common, right? Tell me I'm not alone.
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