Here's a great video for Tammy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHaRwoEGu4U&feature=player_embedded
The God Delusion - online documentary films - Parts 1 & 2
by Nickolas 45 Replies latest jw friends
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Robdar
Part One was very enjoyable. I am going to try to catch Part Two later tonight.
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FirstLastName
I enjoyed reading the God Delusion - I watched the first episode and I was reminded of a documentary I saw once called Jesus Camp, which was down right scary.
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unshackled
Science and religion are not in conflict just like fish and Harry Potter are not in conflict. Fish don't give a damn about Harry Potter.
Nickolas: if you have success digging up "Children of Jehovah" and "Silent Lambs" please give us an update. I'd be interested in seeing those.
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Dagney
I swear religion scares the beegeebers out of me. {{shiver}} Makes me want to live out my days on a remote island.
That was really interesing to watch (actually "hear"...I'm at work.)
I enjoyed the (ahem) "closing remarks." Interestingly, I have been reacquainted with a man I did not marry because he was not a JW. Fast forward 30, yes 30 years later, he is going through a divorce and I am no longer a JW. He was always respectful of my faith, but had none of his own; I always was trying to convert him. He really won in the end. We've been discussing our end of life, and it is similar to the ending comments of the film. The fact that we were born and have been able to enjoy a life as who we individually are, is random and awesome. Enjoy life, make a difference that we were born...it's about all, and can be enough if done well.
I will watch the films again later. Thank you for posting.
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Nickolas
I always welcome Tammy's, PSac's and OTWO's comments (and the others, too). Spice makes the thread palatable.
Robdar? Is that really you?
Will do, unshackled.
You're welcome, Dagney. Your comments resonate. Thank you for dropping in.
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PSacramento
I don't think so, but I respect your right to your opinion, PSac.
As I respect yours and do also accept that you may be right and I am wrong about this.
Such is the nature of having an opinion, LOL !
Sorry to semi-highjack your thread and I apologise to OTWO too.
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Nickolas
found the Fifth Estate program. It's called "Spiritual Shepherds" (not "Silent Lambs") and is available for streaming here:
quality is not great, though.
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PSacramento
There was also an expose of the pedophile issue in the WT by the program W5 here in Canada on CBC.
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superpunk
As has been shown over and over, science and religion are not in conflict.
lulz.
"Of course the theologians fought the facts found by the geologists, the scientists, and sought to sustain the sacred Scriptures. They mistook the bones of the mastodon for those of human beings, and by them proudly proved that "there were giants in those days." They accounted for the fossils by saying that God had made them to try our faith, or that the Devil had imitated the works of the Creator.
They answered the geologists by saying that the "days" in Genesis were long periods of time, and that after all the flood might have been local. They told the astronomers that the sun and moon were not actually, but only apparently, stopped. And that the appearance was produced by the reflection and refraction of light.
They excused the slavery and polygamy, the robbery and murder upheld in the Old Testament by saying that the people were so degraded that Jehovah was compelled to pander to their ignorance and prejudice.
In every way the clergy sought to evade the facts, to dodge the truth, to preserve the creed.
At first they flatly denied the facts -- then they belittled them -- then they harmonized them -- then they denied that they had denied them. Then they changed the meaning of the "inspired" book to fit the facts.
At first they said that if the facts, as claimed, were true, the Bible was false and Christianity itself a superstition. Afterward they said the facts, as claimed, were true and that they established beyond all doubt the inspiration of the Bible and the divine origin of orthodox religion.
Anything they could not dodge, they swallowed, and anything they could not swallow, they dodged."
Ingersoll;