New Light. Is it new truth or simply new understanding on the underlying truth?

by garyneal 40 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • garyneal
    garyneal

    Just some highlights from the assembly:

    Near the end of the second day, my daughter kept wanting Grace Gough's (Mouthy's) 'business card' that she sent me last Christmas that I currently use as a bookmark in my Bible. It reads, "Support for Ex-Jehovah's Witnesses and Jehovah's Witnesses. Do you need a friend? You are not alone!" Can't let that card loose at the assembly! HA HA HA The commotion was enough to irk my wife though I thought we were quite discreet about it.

    Concerned that we were disturbing others, I looked around us and found the old couple who was sitting behind us sleeping. Oh well, guess we're not interrupting their 'spiritual meal.'

    They gave a small skit on comparing two types of families. One was the typical 'worldly' family where everyone in the house had their own thing going on that weekend. The oldest daughter wanted to go to the mall, the youngest son wanted to visit a friend's house to play video games, the mom had her own thing, and the poor father had no choice but to go to the bar since all his family was doing other things. I commented under my breath, yep, if I were the father, it would be Star Trek videos and hoagies. FUN FUN, time to myself!

    The other 'spiritual' family had field service planned for Saturday morning, along with cleaning up around the Kingdom Hall that afternoon. Perhaps, maybe they can spend some time together at the park that afternoon after family study time and follow it up with meetings on Sunday. "Well family," said the father, "it appears our plate is pretty full this weekend."

    I hate these skits, it stirs discontent. I knew I had to go into damage control mode with my wife at lunch afterwards. I explained to her that we both had to give up our pictures of what we think our 'ideal' families should look like. I pointed out that just the day before she was getting mad at me for recommending to her sister that she should not marry a 'worldly' man if she plans to be a witness. I can see how she would be offended at even I believing that witnesses are better off marrying other witnesses and leaving us 'worldlies' alone. But, this skit illustrates why we feel better off being left alone. She understood and began to feel better when I explain that while we are not the ideal 'spiritual' Watchtower family, we are also not the so called 'worldly' family either as we do lots of things together over the weekends.

    A couple of other highlights:

    If you pray for the troops, support the troops, have any dealings with the military, or even cheer for your nation's teams in the olympics, you have the mark of the beast. (This was the talk that disgusted me Saturday to the point to where I had to leave.)

    Yet another skit was presented on how little Johnny wanted to go to college with the recommendation of his guidance counselor while his parents was trying to instill more 'spiritual' goals in his life (more field service, gilead, bethel, etc.).

  • punkofnice
    punkofnice

    Oh, Gary these skits are beyond maximum on my vomit-o-meter. I pity you having to listen to it. I don't know if I'd laugh or cry were it I!?!??!

  • Was New Boy
  • Was New Boy
    Was New Boy

    like the society never apologize anymore! If I say something wrong or do something incorrect I merely say excuse me “the light JUST got brighter.” Most people look confused when I say this, as do the people in the watchtower bible tract society, but I felt it works for them,------------ its good enough for me.

    Excuse me “ The light just got brighter” Yes I like the sound of that.

    One member of the writing department said to another “ we really got this disfollewshipping thing wrong-------- first we say we can’t talk to them. Then we say we can {1974} then we say they can’t again {1981}------- What do we tell them Fred?-------“A---------------Tell them the light just got brighter! Yea ----------that will work. Remember we don’t make mistakes!” --------------well what about 1975? One more question and you are going to the bindery! Sorry my light just got brighter”

    Well I guess God must be on a dimmer, high , low, high, low-----------

  • OnTheWayOut
    OnTheWayOut
    If you pray for the troops, support the troops, have any dealings with the military, or even cheer for your nation's teams in the olympics, you have the mark of the beast. (This was the talk that disgusted me Saturday to the point to where I had to leave.)

    If you bring that up, ask if it's okay to accept the mark of the beast to get a library card at the United Nations.

    Yet another skit was presented on how little Johnny wanted to go to college with the recommendation of his guidance counselor while his parents was trying to instill more 'spiritual' goals in his life (more field service, gilead, bethel, etc.).

    Not that I agree with their definition of "spiritual" but the two are not mutually exclusive like they want people to believe.

  • Vidiot
    Vidiot

    Was New Boy - "the society never apologize anymore!"

    You mean they used to?

  • MeanMrMustard
  • clearpoison
    clearpoison

    As I understood it during my active years the reasoning was following

    1. There is an absolute truth, at this time it is not completelly revealed to us, we could not handle it.

    2. The existing light is the only one people need to follow, not trying to promote new thoughts and quicken the path of new light, because

    3. The person's true nature and Godly behavior is only measured in how accurate this person will obey the existing light as presented by the slave class

    So in essence it would not matter if our understanding or what we believe today looks like this and would be understood in totally opposite way tomorrow, as the only thing that really matters is following the current understanding presented by slave class. People following or referring to old understanding or people speculating new understanding (that very well might become the new light later) have kind of fallen from the correct path as they are not exactly following what current light is about.

    The conclusion of all this is that what was believed (understood) at one point of time do not really matter or should bother us, as the real truth will not be revealed until in the very last possible point of time, maybe even after the big A with the new scripts.

    Whatever

    CP

  • factfinder
    factfinder

    @cp- that kind of sounds like my brother! Yep! Jehovah judges us by how we accept and respond to current understanding.

    @onthewayout- yes, you may use the mark of the beast get a library card from the UN- they have massive library and media facilities so you can do your research to write your pro UN articles in g! And remember, the UN is a government and we can use other Government operated libraries - but use your mark of the beast sparingly!

    @garyneal- << it appears our plate is pretty full this weekend >>

    I feel like puking. How did you sit there through that?

  • garyneal
    garyneal
    If you bring that up, ask if it's okay to accept the mark of the beast to get a library card at the United Nations.

    I thought about that too but I figured I would not bring it up since it would not phase my wife anyhow. Besides, this circuit is in a military area and I am sure there are lots of people benefitting from the 'mark of the beast' listening. They must compartmentalize this crap, otherwise their conscious would be eating them up with their preaching one way and living another.

    Of course, they are probably doing loads of mental gymnastics to justify why sister so-and-so who's unbelieving spouse is doing quite well off a military pension and providing her a nice life with his mark of the beast. In fact, the woman who babysits our youngest daughter is this sister so-and-so. Husband is retired Air Force.

    Add to that the fact that the next morning, we pulled into the parking lot behind someone who had loads of military memorabilia displayed in the back window of his or her car. More marks of the beast, I see. The hypocrisy of these people knows no bounds.

    Not that I agree with their definition of "spiritual" but the two are not mutually exclusive like they want people to believe.

    I know, I hate how they make it sound mutually exclusive. Again, how many of the people in the audience have college degrees? I know of one couple who I found out lately the husband works for NASA and the wife works as a school principle. While I have heard of people working in NASA with little more than an Associate's Degree but I thought school principles need a Bachelor's Degree. This is increasingly becoming a requirement for teachers.

    Like I said, they must compartmentalize this crap, because when I spoke with my wife about the college skit she insisted that the message was simply of balance between college and 'theocratic activities.' That's BULL because I have personally witnessed multiple testimonials on the platform where young people gave up going to college in order to pioneer more. One of them, it was announced, gave up college and decided to work at his father's window washing business so he can devote more time to the 'kingdom work.'

    My only conclusion is, my wife tries to see the balance because she's in college but they are not that balanced.

    And remember, the UN is a government and we can use other Government operated libraries - but use your mark of the beast sparingly!

    LOL I lot of people have the mark in our area.

    Oh, Gary these skits are beyond maximum on my vomit-o-meter. I pity you having to listen to it. I don't know if I'd laugh or cry were it I!?!??!

    They make me laugh personally but since I know my wife believes this stuff is from the SLAAAAAVE, it makes me cry too.

    Oh, and speaking of announcements, the CO was announcing that only 11% of the publishers were active pioneers. He went over ways to increase the number of publishers (including reaching out to 'unbelieving spouses,' HA, I'm waiting...), and asked if anyone was going to auxillary pioneer in April (my wife did not raise her hand).

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