So… according to the Jun 15 WT, Jesus ransom sacrifice only applies to the “anointed class” a.k.a the GB.

by onemore 40 Replies latest jw friends

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Ya it`s Old News..Still..

    A lot of JW`s don`t know the WBT$ has replaced Jesus..

    WBT$ literature isn`t meant to be understood..Just blindly followed..

    Blah-Blah-Bla..The WBT$ replaces Jesus..

    Sure ..Whatever..Just don`t DF me..

    http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1647/PreviewComp/SuperStock_1647R-132518.jpg

    ...................... ...OUTLAW

  • Chalam
    Chalam

    So, the subtle message is clear, the Great Crowd are not children of God, they are “friends” of God.

    A few verses shoot down the WT falsehood like an Uzzi :)

    John 1:9-13 (New International Version 1984, ©1984)

    9 The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world.

    10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.

    Galatians 3:22-29 (New International Version 1984, ©1984)

    22 But the Scripture declares that the whole world is a prisoner of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe.

    23 Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24 So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ [ a ] that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law.

    Sons of God

    26 You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

    Footnotes:

    1. Galatians 3:24 Or charge until Christ came

    Romans 8:12-17 (New International Version 1984, ©1984)

    12 Therefore, brothers, we have an obligation—but it is not to the sinful nature, to live according to it. 13 For if you live according to the sinful nature, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live, 14 because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. 15 For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. [ a ] And by him we cry, “Abba, [ b ] Father.” 16 The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. 17 Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.

    Footnotes:

    1. Romans 8:15 Or adoption
    2. Romans 8:15 Aramaic for Father
    Blessings in Christ, Stephen
  • wasblind
    wasblind

    Hi there stephen,

    glad to see you post , I missed you

  • Listener
    Listener

    Great scriptures Stephen but they even have that covered by saying the greek scriptures were written for the annointed.

  • serenitynow!
    serenitynow!
    When I was a elder I would tell certain ones that the ransom sacrifice only applies to the anointed and not the great crowd many did not know that.

    I never heard that as a JW. So Jesus died for the 144,000's sins, that's it? So the rest of humanity is just SOL? What about Jesus being the Greater Adam? Since the first Adam plunged all of mankind into sin, the Greater Adam was supposed to redeem everybody. How and when did the GB change this?

  • jonathan dough
    jonathan dough
    Great scriptures Stephen but they even have that covered by saying the greek scriptures were written for the annointed.

    They can say it, but they can't prove it. That would require too much, like proving the two-tiered salvation plan and that only 144,000 JWs go to heaven. They can't prove that the New Covenant only applies to the 144,000. The list is endless, their burdens of proof insurmountable.

    http://144000.110mb.com/144000/index.html

  • Terry
    Terry

    Jesus died for.......(if you want to go to heaven clap your hands...if you want to go to heaven clap your hands)

    those who decide they must clap.

    You just know, ya know.

    In ancient Israel the sinner brought or purchased the sacrifice for himself. The anointed priests merely worked as butchers and custodians of the ritual.

    If this is a shadow of real things....

    where does that leave today's anointed custodians?

  • clarity
    clarity

    "And what's worse is you can't make em see that they're being duped. The articles are so confusing that most dubs just consider them "deep" and just shut down and accept what they're told to believe.

    I used to wonder why I couldn't figure out some of the "deeper" articles. I may not be a genius but I'm not exactly dumb. I could read other works and wrap my brain around them, but WT articles like this just confused the hell out of me. And like all other brain dead dubs, I gave up trying to figure it out...until I finally had that "aha!" moment."

    Misery, just reading this is making me crazy!

    This watchtower 'double speak' is part of why some stay in .... the mind so stretched every which way, just gives up in exhaustion!

    The result is capitulation to watchtower persuasion.

    For most it is really too much and they think ... Ok whatever, they know best!

    ps. not one person I've talked to in the last year knew that Christ was not their mediator!

    clarity

  • cyberjesus
    cyberjesus

    When I start to read a thread like this.. and i ask to my self "What the hell are they talking about..... Jesus who?, annointed what?" I get soooo happy :-)

  • yourmomma
    yourmomma

    is it me or was this article one of the clearest in stating that the way to get salvation is going out in field service?

    i agree that this docterine is not new, but its kind of new that they are bringing it up for study. and the reason i think that is, is they are setting up a power play for the governing body. it seems headed in that direction and i think all these articles that suck the GB's d**k are part of the conditioning of the JW's to get them used to a pope like governing body.

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