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  • sinis
    sinis

    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1328939/pg1

    Jehovah's Witnesses Watch Tower and Bethel Whistle-blower
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    Finally, someone from Bethel is shaking things up a bit--but I can guarantee you if it doesn't bring the Tower down, it will make it stand that much firmer against its oppositi

    I am providing a rief introductory to a written summary of the whistle-blowers first call....take a look at the link and you will see all he has divulged!

    To listen to the audio yourself takes long hours, but I will provide the links nonetheless.

    Just a few items from the written summary
    [link to www.christianwitnesses.com]

    And here is the actual audio: (long files!)

    [link to www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com]

    DEEP BUNKERS REMINDFUL OF RUTHERFORD'S "BETH SHAN:" To begin, at one point Johnny tells of seeing evidence Watchtower is trying to get all the architectural construction companies they can involved in a massive deep underground construction project not like with the tunnels at Bethel but for tunnels far deeper into the ground. He wonders if they may be for bunkers. He also sees Bethel construction crews coming and going about every 3-4 days to and from somewhere they are keeping secret. He said he thinks Watchtower may be putting big money into that project.

    (We do know for example back in Rutherford's time he had bomb shelters at Beth Shan in California, perhaps others
    Johnny does not say it but given the time frame this is clearly somewhere off in the distance nowhere near Brooklyn. Many ExJWs know of Beth Sarim but few of Beth Shan. So bomb shelter or bunker usage is nothing new to Watchtower. He does at one later point note Watchtower's Governing Body men may fear not just authorities coming into Bethel after them but regular JW members who may do something to them personally. Since 1914 +100 years = 2014, they may want to evacuate and go into shelter to hunker down then in particular, hoping the storm will pass over them.)

    THREE-STAGE EVACUATION PLANS: Johnny detailed the evacuation plan for at the world headquarters there in Brooklyn; for example in stage one they are to open a letter kept in a secret location telling where to hide the Gov Body members and do so; at stage two evacuate the Auditng Department and shred documents including tax records; at stage three get the Legal Department staff away. He noted that unlike with other areas it takes two passes for entering and Legal's work area, only Auditing is harder to enter. The Legal Department is huge, taking up about half of one building. It's not just pedophile matters they deal with but for example Elders are men and so they do take advantage of the Sisters. (In checking I found that although Legal has a huge building in upstate New York with the main offices of the main attorneys there, a different, older Ex-Bethelite of highest regard in our community, told me that after the bulk of Legal and Service departments moved up to Patterson, New York, not all the people, documents etc of those went north with them.)

    ENVELOPE FOR OLDER BETHELITES: Johnny said Bethelites who have been in Bethel over ten years get an envelope they carry around in their wallet telling where they are to go in case the headquarters gets raided or taken down. He didn't specify if that's so for every such Bethelite or only section heads. Also, Johnny noted that speculation abounds about where the envelope says for the Governing Body men to go. One theory is it's back of where a picture is on a wall of Rutherford. Another is to a room over the regular meeting room. Contrary to what you may be told the Governing Body men do have mobile phones for he has seen them with such phones although he has never heard one go off before.

    JOHNNY'S NOT REMEMBERING NAMES OF "THE COMMANDERS" Those who don't hear all the tape may wonder why Johnny, as someone at Bethel only about 2 ½ years, would know about the evacuation plans. It's because Johnny does on the tape, when you listen with full attention all six hourse, at times tell of his having another brother who, although younger, had been there quite a while before he himself and who passed knowledge of some things to him. Another good question is: why does he say the Auditing Department would shred tax records for would that not be useless since the government has records of the past tax records that Watchtower files. That ignores that applies only for those of the records previously sent in to the government but not for records yet to be filed, and also not for the "other documents" such as original forms about which Auditing sent in records about rather than all of the more numerous documents themselves.)

    SPYING INSIDE FACEBOOK ACCOUNTS: Johnny also says on the tape that a current Gov Body member ordered him to spy on contents of Facebook accounts. They have an entire book listing which internet places to go to and deal with. He is one of about 10-20 Bethelites systematically doing the internet monitoring and prying. He replaced a previous person who asked the head of that section if some of what he was reading about pedophiles in the Watchtower Society was true. The guy said yes then had the questioning Bethelite removed. The guy reports directly to the Governing Body (all or just one member not clearly known) and then elders are notified to act on those using Facebook. He detailed precisely how they get into the accounts but I find what he says unclear when he does so readers can locate it on their own and figure it out if they are into higher tech terminology. The accounts are not hacked into in the sense of being destroyed but rather pried into, information copied and then exited from.

  • designs
    designs

    Captain Kurk is ready when you are

  • sinis
    sinis

    Hey, stranger shit has happened at the WTBTS... you never know, maybe they are building bunkers!

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Sorry Sinis..

    It`s old news..

    Johnny is pulling everyones chain..

    ..................... ...OUTLAW

  • sir82
    sir82
    [link to www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com]

    Uh-huh.

    That site is about as credible as the Weekly World News.

    I'm all for whistle-blowers and such, but unless you are brand-new to this board, you must know that anything coming from that site is just sensationalistic claptrap, at least 90% imaginary.

  • baltar447
    baltar447

    ugh and I got all excited for NOTHING.

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    I think Sinis knows what's going on. The story here is that Johnny's scam is still reverberating. It's sad.

  • sinis
    sinis

    Sweeney, so true.

    However, I put nothing past the JW's.

  • WontLeave
    WontLeave

    This is exactly the sort of thing that happens when people are conditioned to believe without evidence, just on someone's word. Without regard for accuracy, verification, motive, or agenda, JWs are trained for years to take what they're told at face-value. Don't check it, don't doubt it, don't question it, no need to verify or validate it.

    So, we have 7M people who will believe Smurf dolls are walking out of Kingdom Halls, angels are protecting pioneer women from murderers who kill the Avon lady an hour later, Alex Trebek is shouting praises for the New World Translation, things bought at yard sales are infested with demons, Nazis can't see piles of Watchtowers on a table in the middle of the room.

    Take those same people and put them on the other side of the issue and suddenly they're believing the Watchtower is an Illuminati front, practice Satanic black masses at the memorial, purposely hide subliminal pictures and messages in the literature, and now all the nutty things "Johnny" is saying.

    The facts are interesting and damning enough, without trying to turn everything into a Dan Brown story. Why are people so cavalier about credibility? Everybody is grasping at straws to prove their point. Does nobody care what the truth really is? I don't understand people who manipulate the evidence to fit their perception rather than adjust their perception to reflect the evidence.

  • cantleave
    cantleave

    Heeeeeereee's JOHNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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