I'm at a loss here (page 2)

snowbird

Do I have a moral obligation to ensure the children's safety?

-Sab

You know the answer.

Syl

I don't want to impose myself on another family without very good reason to do so. It's the mother's responsibility first, so how do I figure out if she's taking care of it or not? John is a crazy man, what would he do if he knew I was meddling in his affairs? Should I just hand this off to some organization I don't know anything about?

-Sab

Mad Sweeney

Do I have a moral obligation to ensure the children's safety?

Is that a real question, bro? OF COURSE you do, or at least to TRY. I think you also need to have a serious talk with your brother and lay down the law. He's supposedly a grown-up, married man, and it is time that he starts acting like it.

sabastious

I think you also need to have a serious talk with your brother and lay down the law.

The thing is he keeps the insanity out of the house. He just leaves all the time and comes back with stories and marks. I don't feel I have a position to tell him what he can do with his time. He definitely could use someone to guide his every step right now, but he's very obstinate.

-Sab

NomadSoul

Sabastious,

In my opinion you don't have a moral obligation to ensure the children's safety. I'm pretty sure their mother knows about the incident and of course their grandma. It is up to them to ensure their child's safety. I know a lot of people will disagree with this, but to me that's just the facts.

sabastious

I'm pretty sure their mother knows about the incident and of course their grandma.

The grandma is literally the heaviest alcoholic I have ever seen. Plus she might have some brain issues because she had an aneurysm a while back. I wouldn't be surprised if the grandma heard the shot and had no reaction other than "stop shooting in the house!"

The mother I don't know very well. I can't imagine she feels safe

-Sab

sabastious

Is that a real question, bro? OF COURSE you do, or at least to TRY.

I am trying, that's why I posted this thread. I don't know what to do and need advice or help.

-Sab

palmtree67

My son plays in a metal band and they are all good kids who are not involved in this sort of nonsense. The band is a serious business, not an excuse to party.

Playing in a band doesn't mean they have to act this way. It's their choice to live that lifestyle.

I think you need to have a talk with your brother. And ensure those children are safe, even if you make an anonymous phone call to the right authorities.

OUTLAW

I wouldn't be surprised if the grandma heard the shot and had no reaction other than "stop shooting in the house!"

The mother I don't know very well. I can't imagine she feels safe.....-Sab

LOL!!..

People like that don`t care and they are not going to change..

If you get in the middle of something,they could All turn on you..

It`s best to let them all beat the crap out of each other..

It keeps them busy..

.......................... ...OUTLAW

AnneB

"Do I have a moral obligation to ensure the children's safety?"

When I was a child and terrible things were happening at my mom's house, I used to be terrified and wonder why no one was coming to help. When I grew older and discovered that people did know what was going on but all had their reasons for not helping, I felt like I wasn't worth anything.

Kids need protectors...even against relatives. If the only option is Children's Services then use them.

You have no idea the anguish in a child's mind when that child thinks no one can save him/her....that nobody sees or cares.

You can always call them and say you're not sure, but you were told.....then leave it to them to handle.

I'm at a loss here

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