About Cults - defining based on an individual leader - a better description

by Mad Sweeney 12 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    Most definitions of cults one finds will state something like "most cults are characterized by group devotion to a single charismatic leader."

    Of course, the JWs take that to mean the Borg is NOT a cult because they are run by the Governing Body who sit in as proxies for the Faithful and Discreet Slave, who are sitting in for Jesus Christ, who has been appointed to rule by God. They ignore the word "most" to reduce their cognitive dissonance and then skip merrily away in smug self-righteousness.

    The problem is in the definition of cults. It is almost as if it is carefully worded so as to give cult members an out.

    What though, is the reality? How can the definition be improved while not eliminating that important characteristic of a single leader which is often the case?

    Here's my theory, based merely on observation. I wonder whether there is any research on this. There might be but I'm talking on the fly here and haven't really googled. Anyway, here is a life cycle of a typical cult:

    • Cults are almost always established by a single charismatic leader.
    • If they are able to persist beyond the original leader's death, a second individual leader usually attempts to fill the original leader's shoes.
    • Then, either this second leader is ineffective and the cult peters out, OR he constructs a bureaucratic hierarchy that allows the organization to pretty much run itself, diminishing the need for charisma and leadership in subsequent leaders.
    • Eventually, if the cult persists long enough, the bureaucracy becomes more important and powerful than any individual leader within the hierarchy. Decisions are made mostly by precedent and new doctrines are developed by committee. Individuals maintain prestige and authority over other lower ranking individuals, but their power to direct the organization has been transferred to the organizational entity itself. Sometimes this transition occurs gradually under the auspices of several leaders and sometimes it happens more quickly.

    Many cults die with the death of their founder, or at least become much weaker and gradually fade away.

    BUT cults that are long-lived seem to follow this sort of pattern, don't they? Look at the Watchtower, the Mormons, the Scientologists. I would say the WT and Mormons are well into the fourth stage of the cult life cycle. Scientology is right in the transition stage as we speak, somewhere in the latter part of stage three or perhaps even in the early parts of stage four.

    Does anyone else find this to be true? Isn't the reason "most cults are led by a single charismatic leader" because almost all cults are established by such a person and that after the leader's death a majority of cults do not last very long? Isn't it true that in the rare cases where a cult manages to persist for a long period of time after the death of its founder that it goes through a process something like the stages I have outlined above, and that is why those cults do not follow a single leader?

    What are your thoughts? Do you know of any research on this?

  • punkofnice
    punkofnice

    @Mad Sweeney = Cults are almost (ooooOOooOOoH - NOT QUITE) always established by a single charismatic leader.

    I see 'faithful and discrete SLAVE = Singular not plural!

  • Mad Sweeney
  • punkofnice
    punkofnice

    "most cults are characterized by group devotion to a single charismatic leader."

    the term faithful and discrete 'slave' (rather than slaves) morphs from being 7 or 9 men in Brooklyn to becoming an imaginary single entity.

    (I'm probably not explaining myself very well but I'm feeling sleepy after dinner and that last bar of choccy just finished me off.)

    As I see it JW's will say: 'AHA! We're not a cult as we don't have a single leader!'

    I say: 'Isn't the 'slave' a single entity?'

  • wasblind
    wasblind

    Hey Mad,

    The WTS don't have an out, the leaders are not only known as the Faithful & Discreet slave ( Singular )

    they are known as the Governing Body ( singular ) not Govening Bodies.

    and they are overlapin' too cause they were alive while fred franz was alive. And you know they

    claim they are all one generation with fred. So, according to their reasonin' the Gb is most definitley one

    either way, I Understood you Punkofnice

  • skeeter1
    skeeter1

    Governing Body - Singular

    Cults are defined by a myriad of points, not all cults meet all the points. Watch Tower hits a number of them, and in my study, is a cult.

    Skeeter

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    Glad you all understand each other but what you're talking about wasn't really the point of my post. The point is that the typical definition of cult is incomplete because when a cult outlasts the life of its founder its governance fundamentally evolves into something else and that evolution follows a more or less predictable pattern which should also become part of the definition of a cult.

  • sizemik
    sizemik

    MAD . . . I agree with your analysis. The problem I guess is if you change the definition to accommodate the existence of a ruling body as well, does it alter the definition too much? . . . ie; does it bring some groups into the definition unfairly . . .

    I lifted a definition from the Discovery Channel website and posted it under "CULT definition - Discovery Channel" a couple of day's ago.

    What's below is the same summary only this time edited to allow for multiple individuals in the leadership . . . The definition is slightly abridged (examples removed) and altered ONLY to accommodate the existence of a ruling body . . . edits are bracketed. As you can see, not much editing was required

    Just thought it might add to the discussion . . . everyone can draw their own conclusions.

    What characterizes a destructive cult?

    A destructive cult, or a doomsday cult, has all the elements of a general cult but to a greater degree. It's headed by a charismatic single leader (or ruling body), who demands complete loyalty. It uses deceptive recruiting tactics and is isolationist, with strict supervision over the daily lives of its members. The members speak an inside language that only they know, and draw sharp distinctions between good (us) and evil (them).

    What is meant by the phrase "cult of personality"?

    The term cult of personality refers to a certain dynamic whereby the cult members worship their leader (or ruling body), totally, unquestionably, not just because of his/their ideas or philosophy. Accordingly, the leader (or ruling body), has total control over his devotees. Cult members in this scenario believe that only their leader (or ruling body), can save them from the gates of hell and lead them to salvation.

    Why is money an important factor in cults?

    The nature of cults is such that individuals lose their sense of self and relinquish their independence. And the cult needs money for accommodation, food, clothing and sometimes the leader (or ruling body's) pocket. While some cults access cash through legitimate means, others will use illegal means to do so. This may entail fraud or tax evasion, but it often entails deceptive fundraising techniques or demands upon new members to make significant financial contributions.

    Are all cults religious by nature?

    Most but not all cults - - especially destructive cults - - are religious in nature. Some cults have financial or political roots. They are all similar in controlling individuals to the extent that the leader (or ruling body) achieves it’s religious or political ends, or lines their own pocket. All of these cults play on the vulnerabilities of the recruits and seek to draw in converts. These converts end up prepared to give up their lives or kill others in order to obey their leader(s) and serve their will. Some cults run seminars and retreats, enticing people with the promise of psychological and spiritual healing. Many of them also drain people's pockets in the process.

    Is it easy to leave a cult?

    In most cases, it's far easier to get into a cult than out. A few cults will allow members to leave of their own volition, though they will apply pressure to stay. In the majority of cases, a member is either too brainwashed to leave or is threatened if he does so.

    How is cult recruitment executed?

    Recruitment to a cult usually takes place at college campuses, spiritual retreats, unemployment offices, support groups or religious gatherings. Recruitment techniques typically involve deception and manipulation. Recruiters often play to the stress and vulnerability of the candidates, masking the true nature of the group's intentions or promising spiritual rewards. Often, the recruits know the recruiters personally. Once the recruit has bitten the bait, the cult will use isolationist tactics to keep him from sharing his doubts, if any, with others.

    How is thought reform used by cults?

    Thought reform has many names: mind control, brainwashing, indoctrination, coercive persuasion. These terms all refer to the systematic breakdown of an individual's sense of self. Thought reform is the primary technique of cult dynamics, to the extent that a cult member will do what he might otherwise not do. This is accomplished through induced dependency, dread of disobeying the god-like leader(s) and isolation from mainstream culture. The indoctrinated cult member will embrace the group and its leader(s) by subjugating his own thinking and allow himself to remain under the total control of the cult.

    What personality traits is a cult recruit likely to have?

    Research has shown that people who are recruited into a cult are likely to have a higher-than-normal incidence of psychiatric disorder and are probably undergoing some form of stress at the time of recruitment. Psychologist Michael Langone identified additional traits of likely recruits: dependency stemming from low self-confidence; gullibility; unassertiveness, with a reluctance to question authority; disillusionment with the status quo; low tolerance for uncertainty; blind belief or naïve idealism; and a desire for spiritual meaning.

    What's the difference between a cult and a religion?

    The American Heritage Dictionary has defined a cult as "a religion or religious sect generally considered extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader or leaders." A cult and a religion are comparable in terms of spirituality, faith and ritual. Where a cult differs is in its deviation from the mainstream, its typical requirement of a commitment to the group and its worshipful behavior by the devotees toward a single, charismatic leader (or authority). A religion, by contrast, is often considered mainstream, will have different levels of commitment on the part of its adherents and will have a hierarchy of leadership.

    Do deprogramming and exit counseling work for former cultists?

    Deprogramming takes place after the forcible removal of a member of a cult. Tremendous investments of time and money must be made to deprogram him so that he can readjust to society. The ex-cult member is led through a debriefing regimen aimed to get him to think for himself. Deprogramming techniques were more common in the 1970s but the necessary kidnapping, expense for a security detail, and controversial lawsuits led to a rethinking of this technique. Nowadays, exit counseling is the preferred form of action and aims at attracting the cult member to voluntarily undergo debriefing. Family members are involved and psychological means are applied to encourage the cult member to seek an out. In any case, an ex-cult member will often experience psychological scarring for many years after escape.

    Luvonyall - MS

  • wobble
    wobble

    I think you have done a good job MS of getting rid of wriggle room for JW's, Mormons,scientologists etc on this matter.

    My dictionary does not restrict it to a single leader definition, just includes that in part of No2 definition, the other 4 all apply to WT anyway, and just one would be enough.

    The thing is that just because something is a cult it is not always evil.

    It is when a cult exercises high control tactics ,and mind control techniques, that it becomes something frighteningly evil.

    The JW/WT cult does both of the above.

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep
    The problem is in the definition of cults

    Don't use that term. It has too many definitions in the minds of your audiences. Use 'high control group' instead. Your audience is less likely to have a preconceived idea of what it means.

    Teach people to recognise high control groups by their attributes, not by name or definition.

    JWs are a good example. "We don't have a single charismatic leader, therefore we are not a cult!". Looking at their attributes, the hierarchy is treated the same as any single charismatic leader. The bOrg learned a long time ago that the death of a single charismatic leader is bad for business and have dealt with that problem. That shouldn't let them off the hook.

    Don't give Dubs wiggle room.

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