WOW...Watching 20/20 about Independent Baptist Cult...

jamiebowers

referred to on this thread:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/208507/1/A-Religious-Sub-Culture-That-Many-Americans-Have-Never-Heard-Of-Yet-Which-Has-Thousands-Of-Churches-Across-The-Country-Churches-That-Critics-Claim-Can-Foster-Physical-And-Sexual-Abuse-On-ABC-NEWS-20-20

I wonder how many jws are watching this show and see the many similarities to the Watchtower.

Snoozy

I do! There is another thread going about this topic also see:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/208507/1/A-Religious-Sub-Culture-That-Many-Americans-Have-Never-Heard-Of-Yet-Which-Has-Thousands-Of-Churches-Across-The-Country-Churches-That-Critics-Claim-Can-Foster-Physical-And-Sexual-Abuse-On-ABC-NEWS-20-20

Snoozy.. (Sorry I can't post direct links from my computer feel free to repost clickable link)

Joliette

A lotta similarities...most mega chruches and even the small ones are nothing but cults.

I can clearly see it.

Just watched it. I am a former IFB member and I can tell you that there is indeed a lot of truth in it. I saw the similarities between that cult and the JW cult whenever I set foot inside a Kingdom Hall.

headisspinning

I kept telling Steve to ssshhhh while I was watching... it's very, very similar if you can take a step back from the JW mentality.

garyneal

Just joined one of those survivor groups on facebook. Guess I am a victim of a cult just like most of you all here (who knew).

Here is an excerpt from the description on that group.

You know what I'm talking about. You went to an IFB (Independent Fundamental Baptist) church three times a week. The Christian school you attended was connected to your church/cult, or you were home-schooled. Your church was committed to the "Doctrine of Separation" and strong discipline. You believed Billy Graham was the "bad guy" and that all other churches and religious organizations were/are disobedient and in "sin" (i.e. you were taught even the Southern Baptists were/are "compromising liberals"). Your church also controlled nearly every aspect of your life. Your family may have even needed to get permission from the pastor before going on vacation (if you dared leaving in the first place). If you are female (heaven forbid), you most likely wore long skirts and the IFB clothing item known as "culottes" most of your life whenever you went in public (you even went swimming in them).

You're familiar with most if not all of the following:

"Bus Ministry"
"Soul-winning"
Gospel tracts
King James Onlyism

Yes, sadly, I know what she is talking about.

satinka

Another related article:

A Religious Sub-Culture That Many Americans Have Never Heard Of, Yet Which Has Thousands Of Churches Across The Country, Churches That Critics Claim Can Foster Physical And Sexual Abuse, On ABC NEWS' "20/20"

Apr 7, 2011 - 10:40:33 AM Elizabeth Vargas' Yearlong Investigation into the Independent Fundamental Baptist Church Airs Friday, April 8

Try to imagine the pain and humiliation of a teenage girl, just 15 years old, who says she was forced to stand in front of a New Hampshire church congregation and confess her "sin" of being pregnant. She says that, not only was she forced to confess her pregnancy, but also to ask for their forgiveness - with no mention of the man she says sexually abused her. After all, she says, the pastor told her it's better than being stoned to death, as the bible describes.

That is what Tina Anderson alleged happened to her at her ultra conservative Independent Fundamental Baptist -- or IFB -- church. The IFB has thousands of congregations across the country, but many people had never heard of it... That was, until another woman, Jocelyn Zichterman, began a public campaign, armed with nothing but a computer and memories of her own alleged abuse, which she says church beliefs can foster.

And survivors are now coming out of the woodwork to say she's not alone. Elizabeth Vargas' yearlong exclusive investigation into a religious sub-culture that critics claim can foster - even cover up - physical and sexual abuse airs on "20/20," Friday, April 8 (10:00-11:00 p.m., ET) on ABC.

Critics say the church teaches a strict interpretation of the bible, including the practice known as breaking the will of the child, with some advocating that it even be applied to infants as young as two weeks old.

"I had a decision to make that either I was going to kind of curl up in the corner and be quiet or I was going to stand up for my family and tell the truth," says Jocelyn Zichterman.

Pastor Chuck Phelps, the former pastor at Tina Anderson's New Hampshire church, denies Tina was disciplined by the church or that there was any attempt to cover up a crime. He declined repeated interview requests but provided a statement: "Tina was involved in an ongoing sexual relationship with Mr. Ernie Willis... Tina lied to her mother and to me about this relationship." He also said he brought the allegations to the attention of police who failed to investigate further. Ernie Willis, Tina Anderson's alleged attacker, has pleaded not guilty to sexual assault.

Brian Fuller, the current pastor at Tina's former IFB church, says all IFB churches operate independently and that his church has nothing to hide. He opened his doors to "20/20" cameras, was critical of how Tina's case was handled and denounced any abusive disciplinary practices, adding: "The Bible says that I'm supposed to love my children, I'm never supposed to ever do anything out of anger or manipulation. And that's what our people are taught here."

"20/20" is anchored by Elizabeth Vargas and Chris Cuomo. David Sloan is executive producer. Source: http://realitytvwebsite.com/RealityTVNews/A-Religious-Sub-Culture-That-Many-Americans-Have-Never-Heard-Of-Yet-Which-Has-Thousands-Of-Churches-Across-The-Country-Churches-That-Critics-Claim-Can-Foster-Physical-And-Sexual-Abuse-On-ABC-NEWS-20-20.html Sounds eerily similar to the JWs. I wonder if Elizabeth Vargas would investigate the JWs..??? satinka