Hi RM: Your article is very good work. Thanks for the link. The Bible says some things that to me are wrong in its treatment of women ... but the traditions of many groups that have rigidly intepreted the Bible have added even more mistreatment above the Bible. Thanks again.
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Lari
RunningMan, I really admire the work you put into your articles. Sometimes I wish I had really well researched reasons for my opinions. But I just dont have the patience it takes.
Keep up the good work
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Gozz
Brilliant work you've done there!
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LaDonnaAna
Great Work Running,
Very Funny too. Many congrats...
Ana
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DanielHaase
Impressive work. I'm surprised you don't have much more published. Kepp 'em coming!
"Brother, you better get down on your knees and pay...a thousand more fools are being born every f***ing day" -Bad Religion
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writerpen
The whole idea of the treatment of women has angered me throughout my life. Being raised a JW and under an abusive father only made things worse. In order for me to deal with what I see in the Bible and the treatment of women in various cultures, I have to make myself believe that God never intended for women to be less equal to men. Your article mentions the curse of women being dominated by men. This curse has proven very true. But, there was also a curse for men - to work the fields - in other words to have to work for a living. Looking at these two curses put in their respective places - one upon the man - the other upon the woman, we see that God intended for both sexes to suffer. Looking at todays society though, men are unable to carry their curse by themselves, and thus need women's help to make a living. Therefore, I truly believe that God is quite fine with my female pastor and all other women who have carried their curse throughout history and helped men with theirs. I truly enjoyed your article and hope to see more.
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Gozz
Runningman,
could you please cite the verse(s) in the 3rd Chapter of Leviticus that you referred to?
Thank you.
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RunningMan
Gozz: Thanks for catching that. I must have taken leave of my senses. Here is the reference from Leviticus 27 (RSV):
Leviticus, chapter 27
1: The LORD said to Moses,
2: "Say to the people of Israel, When a man makes a special vow of persons to the LORD at your valuation,
3: then your valuation of a male from twenty years old up to sixty years old shall be fifty shekels of silver, according to the shekel of the sanctuary.
4: If the person is a female, your valuation shall be thirty shekels.
5: If the person is from five years old up to twenty years old, your valuation shall be for a male twenty shekels, and for a female ten shekels.
6: If the person is from a month old up to five years old, your valuation shall be for a male five shekels of silver, and for a female your valuation shall be three shekels of silver.
7: And if the person is sixty years old and upward, then your valuation for a male shall be fifteen shekels, and for a female ten shekels.
8: And if a man is too poor to pay your valuation, then he shall bring the person before the priest, and the priest shall value him; according to the ability of him who vowed the priest shall value him.What really makes this chapter despicable is the following verse:
28: "But no devoted thing that a man devotes to the LORD, of anything that he has, whether of man or beast, or of his inherited field, shall be sold or redeemed; every devoted thing is most holy to the LORD.
29: No one devoted, who is to be utterly destroyed from among men, shall be ransomed; he shall be put to death. -
Gozz
Thanks Runningman.
If you'll let us look a little bit more closely at that story about Esther and Mordecai. At Esther 2:5-7, could it be that the construction 'Mordecai was son of Jair, the son of Shimei, son of Kish, a Benjamite who had been taken to exile from Jerusalem with the deported people who were taken into exile with Jeconiah, the king of Judah...' allows for the possibility that Mordecai was born in exile, that Kish was the one taken to exile?
Thanks.
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RunningMan
Gozz:
Lari raised that point in an earlier post. I checked nine translations and was not able to find a definitive statement as to who was taken into exile - Kish or Mordecai. My source for the understanding was "Asimov's Guide to the Bible".