How can HOARDERS by so clueless?? (page 2)

Band on the Run

leHow does someone with cancer be so clueless? Is a heart attack victim clueless? It is a true brain disorder with biochemical changes that can be tracked. Trauma is often a trigger. They are no different from neat people in morals or values. The sad part is that it is not treatable over the long term. Science has to find out much more about the illness.

The current hoarders shows confuse me. It is part car crash. Sort of like Britney Spears and Lindsay Lohan. The freak show. On the other hand, it shows how sad it is. My mom was very neat. My values extend to other things. When I watch HOarders or Clean House, it movtivates me to declutter and clean. It gives me extra elbow grease. Rub a dub.

jaguarbass

My wife thinks I am a hoarder. I have 35 guitars. I keep saying this is my last one and I buy one more.

I have a 15 by 10 foot wall of books. I work midnights in a jail. I have been able to read them at work.

If I like them, I keep them and sometimes read them over. If I dont like them I trade them in. With Amazon.com

posting reviews on all the books they sell, I dont end up buying to many books I dont like, so I end up keeping

most of them.

The book thing probably started with being a witness. If I found something written that contradicted what the

witnesses said I would hang on to it, so I could show others. I still have my Ray Franz books from back in the 80's.

Then it spread to finding books that contradicted the propaganda that humans are indoctranated with.

Then there are all kinds of other books. Books about bands, musicians, travels, fiction, Sci fi some classics.

I always enjoyed going to music stores and book stores and now my man cave, den is a music store/ book store.

For me its a happy place. I can still move in my room, in fact I can have 3 to 4 people over and have band practice

amongst my books and guitars and drums.

I also collected albums and CD's but about 8 years ago, I realized I had all the good music ever made. Computers and stand alone

2 terabyte hard drives have compacted my music collection. With music I am more into collecting the sound than the hard copy.

Now days, when an interesting song comes out I can grab it off you tube and put it into my hard drive.

I am 58 and I believe if I got rid of all my books and guitars they would all come back. Because I have gotten rid of them

before and they always come back and they bring more friends.

Its like that bible story about casting out the demons out of your head and then they all come back and bring even more

demons. Also some of the guitars I bought back in the 60's and 70's for 2 to 3 hundred dollars are

selling for 2 to 3 thousand dollars on e bay today.

Although I dont think books and guitars are demons, when I was a JW, I did consider the possibility.

I also have baseball cards, die cast cars and silver dollars and bullion. A silver dollar from the 50's when I was born that'

cost 1 dollar is going for 40$ today. An ounce of silver is about 40 bucks thats not counting the numismatic value.

And tube guitar amplifiers.

And food, I have a pantry with about 3 months of non perishable goods.

JeffT

A true hoarder is mentally ill. There is a big difference between having 35 guitars and keeping everything that ever went into your house. I have a lot of books (mostly history) some of them are in stacks, but I am no where near being a hoarder.

A couple of years ago, while doing an apartment inspection I went through a hoarder's place. Every room was stacked to the ceiling with boxes of stuff. Some of it looked like old photos and magazines, some of it looked like garbage. The maintenance guy and I wondered if the floors would hold our weight, given what was already piled up. The bathtub was full of stuff. The toilet had four feet of boxes on it. The neighbor told us the tenant slept on his deck, as there was not room for a bed.

That is a hoarder.

Terry

Fascinating.

jwfacts

When he isn't at work he is home burning Cd's and Dvd's to copies for his files as backup! He does about 25 of these EVERY DAY.

It is definintely an issue when a person creates more than they can physically ever use or listen to in their lifetime.

I don't understand it, and in this digital age I do not want anything at all if I know I can find it in the cloud when required.

I saw a program the other day on hoarders and an old lady had so much she was unable to even enter most of the rooms in her house. When they cleaned it out they found two of her missing cats dead in the mess. Her children were so angry and embarrassed about the mother, but the mother refused to even admit she had a problem.

PublishingCult

Both my mother and father-in-law were children during WWII. My mother-in-law, a native of O'ahu, watched in terror from her classroom window as the Japanese flew over and began bombing Pearl Harbor. My father-in-law, was the only child of a very affluent family in Dansig when the Nazi's came through and stripped them of their home, their valuables, and their money. This young Polish-Jew went from tossing his toy truck from the top landing of the grand staircase of their mansion (just to watch the servants run and fetch them for him) for amusement, to sneaking across the barbed wire to steal potatoes and risk being executed. In both their cases, food became scarce and they went very hungry for prolonged periods of time.

Today, if you go into their pantry, you will not find an inch of bare shelf space. The kitchen fridge and freezer is packed. In the garage they have rows of metal shelves stocked with food from floor to ceiling, and yet another freezer packed full of meets and bread. They hoard food. Nothing else, just food. I did not understand why two old people would stay so overly stocked up on food until I heard their story. It makes sense in their case. They know how world events can change your life in an instant and they are not about to be in a position that would leave them to starve as in times past. They never talk about it, but going hungry in their childhood must have something to do with, if only subconsciously.

skeeter1

I have a question - do hoarders remember everything they have and where it is? Or, does it all go into the big blob of 'stuff'?

I am not a hoarder, but my father likely is a hoarder of tools and other garage junk. It's packed to the gills will 'tools' he'll never use, and many of which are now sorely out of date and not useful but as parts.

I don't know much about the psychology of hoarders. I think of them as squirrels, burrying nuts out of a fear of an impending, long winter. The stuff makes them feel loved and secure. But, to the rest of us...we go "iiiiiccccckkkkk!"

Skeeter

kurtbethel

I ...collected stuff....but I turned it around a few years ago and there has been an outflow of goods. In my case, I have a strong feeling of the human energy that went into the production of things and would feel that energy is squandered unless I find a good home for the items. It is liberating and feels lighter to let it go.

Snoozy

Many hoarders on TV have so much stuff it pushes out their family/friends because there is no room for them..maybe subconsciously they prefer the non talking type of companions..even when forced to choose they can't get rid of the stuff and become beligerent/defensive/protective that you would even ask..has to be a psychological thing...

Snoozy

MrFreeze

Watching Hoarders makes me very sad. I watched one where the guy had thousands of rats in his house. He realized he had a problem but it was just so difficult for him to give them up. It was after his wife died that he started getting more and more rats until they overran the house. He was just trying to fill a giant void that his wife left behind. Truly heartbreaking. If you aren't a hoarder, you can't understand hoarders. I have hoarder tendencies that I have to fight constantly.

How can HOARDERS by so clueless??

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