crisis of principles

jerome

i need to ask you exjws something serious.

i have never been a jw thankfully because i have been given the ability to look before you leap.

(i'm sorry that many of you never had that chance its just that i

heard that it was a "cult" so i decided to look into it)

i posted my gf is a jw (twice by mistake sorry please delete one)

[i wasent trying to be a troll or nothing]

that is why i am here i want to know how this book can help

can plant that seed of objectivity...

who instrumental was this book in getting you to leave the org.

i have alot riding on this book how good is it and its companion book.

again i have not read it as yet but i must know how it made you feel when you still were a witness...

can these book plant that seed of doubt?

thanks for replying.

i probally wouldent ever join that org so i

obviously would want her to leave but the mind controll thing...

difference of principles

larc

Jerome,

You are a shit head. You "have been given the ability to look before you leap." Well, how wonderful, so stick your pride up you ass.

i'm sorry if i gave you the wrong impression when i said that i look before i leap
all i meant was i heard alot of bad things about the org so i decided to look before you leap.
i'm shure many wish you knew what you did before you joinde it
i'm sorry for offending you.

but any way my gf is a jw and i am not
so i want to know if getting her to read this book will open her eyes to objectivity

can this book do this ?

OUTLAW

HA-HA!Hey larc,some days you just crack me up!..LOL...OUTLAW

Sky

jerome, I was not given the choice of being able to look before I lept...
you see, I couldnt walk yet..
I was was 3rd generation JW on one side of my family,and a 5th generation on the other side....
you see, not everyone makes a "choice" in the matter...

SKy

Mister Biggs

Hi, Jerome.
I understood what you meant. Many people here who peruse this Board didn't have the internet or COC available when we were raised OR chose to be a JW. But, you have been fortunate enough to have these vehicles available to you in the year 2002. You only meant what I've been telling some friends I have made on this site and that is: If I knew the things back in 1984 (when I got baptized) that I know now, I wouldn't have become a JW. The Org will lose many potential "sheep" because of the internet and books, such as COC.

Now, to answer your question:
I just finished reading COC and I must tell you that it's a very candid and honest book. I already had doubts prior to reading it. So, it definitely enhanced or broadened my doubts. There was so much other terrible things that I learned about the GB in reading that book. If your girlfriend is open-minded and willing to read it, then definitely offer it to her. However, if she's seeing you on the "down-low", then as soon as you offer her the book, she may go running scared back to the elders. The last thing a JW wants to be shown is something 'apostate'. My advice, go with your inner feeling.

badwillie

Jerome,
I'm with Biggs (comments above) on this one. No offense for your earlier comments too, but I was also raised as a JW so didn't have much choice.
Finally at the age of 34 (last year), I read CofC - it will DEFINITELY have an impact on ANY witness that reads it with an open mind. This book (books) works, and has worked for thousands of people already. The key is giving it to her at the right time. You may need to prime her for it for a while first. As Biggs said, no JW will want to read this unless they are seriously doubting or disillusioned.
My hunch is that if she has you as a "worldly" boyfriend then she is already going against the Org so she may be ripe for your help at this time.
-Badwillie.

butalbee

JUST BUY THIS FUCKING BOOK, TIE HER TO A CHAIR, AND READ IT TO HER.
(could be more fun than it sounds!)

larc

Jerome,

I want to apologize for my short nasty comments posted above. At the time, I did not know the context of your questions, as revealed via several threads.

As several others have more gently pointed out, there are a number of reasons why people become JW's. Some are born into it as I was. Some are vulnerable to its influence at a certain point in their lives, etc.

I think the more important question for you is what you can do for your girl friend, and there is no "one best way" answer to that question.

Some questions I have are the following: How old is she? Why is with you instead of a Witness man? How active is she in her religion? How "involved" are the two of you? Perhaps, you have discussed this, but I haven't seen it.

butalbee

Jerome do you have an alter ego???????

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