Richard Dawkins believes in intelligent design?

by slimboyfat 78 Replies latest jw friends

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat
    Option 1 - roll your sleeves up and do some really hard work on trying to work towards an answer
    Option 2 - magic up an all powerful god who did it but who apparently needs no explanation - ta dah!

    It's magic either way. And apart from the origin of life there is the question why there is something rather than nothing to start with.

  • ballistic
    ballistic

    It's magic either way. And apart from the origin of life there is the question why there is something rather than nothing to start with.

    Maybe there is everything, and we happen to be where life is possible.

  • cofty
    cofty

    When a naturalistic answer is found there will be no need of your magic.

    Scientists are working on it - theists are busy criticising them and praying they never succeed.

  • besty
    besty

    i love mispelling 'accurately' :-)

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat
    When a naturalistic answer is found there will be no need of your magic.
    Scientists are working on it - theists are busy criticising them and praying they never succeed.

    A naturalistic explanation for why there is something rather than nothing seems paradoxical. But great, if scientists ever manage it then that will be pure dead magic.

  • cofty
    cofty

    pure dead magic

    I think you, me and Besty all get that pun - well done!

  • ballistic
    ballistic

    I'd like to know if anyone had any agreement or disagreement with my view?

  • cofty
    cofty

    I think you may need to explain it a bit more first Ballisitc?

  • ballistic
    ballistic

    I think you may need to explain it a bit more first Ballisitc?

    OK, lets start again...

    There first of all is nothing. Either a god appeared who created a universe or a universe appeared all of it's own accord. According to science the singularity which created the universe was just a very small infinately dense spot of matter. It's probably easier to imagine this "spot" appearing out of nothing than an omnipotent complex god with a personality and emotions.

    However, my view is that the blank canvas on which this story played out, was one of infinate possibility where all kinds of scenarios are played out. Things happen in terms of probability. It's likely that different spots of density did explode or contract, appear and disappear and chances are, sooner or later, one appeared with the basic particIe physics which supported life. In such an environment, it's highly more likely for the universe to appear from a singularity than for a god to appear, which as we imagine has inherant complexity and has not evolved, than for the universe to appear which was just a dense ball of matter. Our intelligence has come along later from evolution, and prior to this the formation of galaxies and solar systems.

  • cofty
    cofty

    Perhaps the mistake is to think about there being a "time" before the universe. There is no time before time begins.

    I know it makes my head hurt too

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