Is this or is it not CANNY DUPLICITY?? "prophets"??

by Terry 16 Replies latest jw experiences

  • Terry
    Terry

    You will notice that the Watchtower likes to enclose the word PROPHET in quotation marks when they talk about themselves.

    This is canny duplicity!
    "prophet "
    Putting quotes around the word gives them an out. It means the word is not to be taken as written, but, rather in another sense.

    They eat their cake and have it too!

    Jehovah's Witnesses are "prophets" is literally true. Unfortunately, it isn't factually true.

    IDENTIFYING THE "PROPHET"

    These questions can be answered in the affirmative. Who is this prophet? ... This "prophet" was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ, known at that time as International Bible Students. Today they are known as Jehovah's Christian witnesses. ... Of course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a "prophet" of God. It is another thing to prove it. The only way that this can be done is to review the record.

    JW1983 - JWs are NOT false prophets

    Jehovah’s Witnesses, in their eagerness for Jesus’ second coming, have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect. Because of this, some have called them false prophets. Never in these instances, however, did they presume to originate predictions ‘in the name of Jehovah.’ Never did they say, ‘These are the words of Jehovah.’ The Watchtower, the official journal of Jehovah’s Witnesses, has said: “We have not the gift of prophecy.” (January 1883, page 425) “Nor would we have our writings reverenced or regarded as infallible.” (December 15, 1896, page 306) The Watchtower has also said that the fact that some have Jehovah’s spirit “does not mean those now serving as Jehovah’s witnesses are inspired. It does not mean that the writings in this magazine The Watchtower are inspired and infallible and without mistakes.” (May 15, 1947, page 157) “The Watchtower does not claim to be inspired in its utterances, nor is it dogmatic.” (August 15, 1950, page 263) “The brothers preparing these publications are not infallible. Their writings are not inspired as are those of Paul and the other Bible writers. (2 Tim. 3:16) And so, at times, it has been necessary, as understanding became clearer, to correct views. (Prov. 4:1Smile”—February 15, 1981, page 19. - Awake 1993, 3/22, page 4.

    Time to identify a FALSE PROPHET:

    Every Awake! from 1968 to 1994 stated the following:

    Most importantly, this magazine builds confidence in the Creator's promise of a peaceful and secure new world before the generation that saw the events of 1914 passes away. (March 8 1988)


    JW's changed that doctine of the 1914 generation in 1995, yet claimed it was the "Creator's promise" in every issue of the Awake! for a quarter century.

    The MILLIONS NOW LIVING (will never die) are dead and in their graves.

    Promise spoken; promise broken.

    Who spoke? _________ Witnesses!

    Whose witnesses? ___________ Witnesses?

    Spoke in WHOSE NAME? ____________ Witnesses!

    Fill in the blank and you identify who the false "prophets" are because they spoke in JEHOVAH'S name.

  • designs
    designs

    They should run for Public Office with all that practice in double speak......

  • Terry
    Terry

    To be on the Governing Body you have to wear a little necklace.

    On one side it says: "The statement on the other side of this necklace is TRUTH"

    When you turn it around the other side reads: "The statement on the other side of this necklace is FALSE"

    The necklace represents everything that is published in the Watchtower publications.

  • hamsterbait
    hamsterbait

    yet after denying they are prophets, they printed that they back up everything they say by quoting the scripture "These are the words of jehovah"

    I dont have the CD anymore so cant find this one.

    HB

  • MrFreeze
    MrFreeze

    They claim to not be inspired so why should we trust them? This is the thing that bugs me most.

  • Terra Incognita
    Terra Incognita

    To be on the Governing Body you have to wear a little necklace.

    On one side it says: "The statement on the other side of this necklace is TRUTH"

    When you turn it around the other side reads: "The statement on the other side of this necklace is FALSE"

    Good analogy, but having them flip a coin with those sayings engraved on both sides would make for a better visual.

  • Terry
    Terry

    ...or, how about a tattoo? One statement per butt cheek!

  • Maze
    Maze

    A prophet is a person who is bestowed with a supernatural ability. For example, the apostle John was a visionary. A visionary is a man who had visions from God regarding concealed or future matters. The Hebrew word for “visionary” is cho·zeh′, from cha·zah′, meaning “behold; vision.” Cha·zah′ and its derivatives are employed with reference to seeing visions. John recorded what he saw in the Bible book of Revelation (A Revelation to John).

    William Miller of the Seventh-day Adventist Church claimed a prophetic dream from God bestowed him with the power of prophecy in the same manner recorded in Daniel 2:29-45 where the Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar received a dream vision from God as interpreted by Daniel. Daniel himself had a dream from God in which he beheld four huge beasts coming up out of the sea, these creatures representing human governments. (Da 7:1, 3, 17)

    The Governing Body, nor the associated faithful and discreet slave has ever claimed the supernatural ability of prophecy in the same manner as faithful men of old.

    "Our own views are not prophecy, but interpretations of the holy prophets of old." (Watch Tower, October 1890, page 8)

    Prophecy may be an inspired moral teaching, an expression of a divine command or judgment, or a declaration of something to come. Prediction, or foretelling, is not the basic thought conveyed by the root verbs in the original languages (Heb., na·va'′; Gr., pro·phe·teu′o); yet it forms an outstanding feature of Bible prophecy.

    The hysteria about Jehovah's Witnesses and false prophecy is directly related to Armageddon. Opposers of Jehovah's Witnesses believe Armageddon is a false prophecy. With this in mind, what you're really doing is condemning the holy prophets of old, not Jehovah's Witnesses.

  • sizemik
    sizemik

    Predictors rather than prophets? . . . . come now Maze . . .

    Prophecy may be an inspired moral teaching, an expression of a divine command or judgment, or a declaration of something to come.

    You are engaging in semantics . . . a convenient accessory to duplicity

    The facts exposed in Terry's OP along with countless other examples speak for themselves

    The hysteria about Jehovah's Witnesses and false prophecy is directly related to Armageddon. Opposers of Jehovah's Witnesses believe Armageddon is a false prophecy. With this in mind, what you're really doing is condemning the holy prophets of old, not Jehovah's Witnesses.

    I don't believe anyone is being hysterical here . . . and I don't recall any "Prophets of Old" declaring 1914 as the end of the Gentile Times or 1975 as a "marked year"

    The "slave" has openly declared itself to be God's prophet in our time.

    As someone once said . . . getting consistency from them in this respect is like "fishing for nickels in a pot of treacle with a stick of rhubarb"

  • Terry
    Terry

    I'm not a doctor, but, I play one on T.V.

    In the meantime I'm going to diagnose a fatal illness in you and proceed to perform an operation.

    You'll have to sign a consent form.

    (Then, when the patient dies...)

    I TOLD THEM I WASN'T A DOCTOR!

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