Is the bible really inspired ??

by master chief 12 Replies latest jw friends

  • master chief
    master chief

    here i go again!!!!!think about it what makes an actor,popstar,author,etc popular, them or its believers i mean cmon anything sells today even if its crap,people go on and on about the bible being inspired and beneficial for teaching but are other self help books inspired or are counselers or therapists inspired so back to the question is the bible inspired by god or mans imagination?

  • Fredhall
    Fredhall

    Inspired by God

  • DazedAndConfused
    DazedAndConfused

    I believe that it is inspired by God...just as love song/poem is inspired by the person it was intended for. In other words, I think that their love for God inspired these men to write about Him. I don't believe that, other than the hand of God writing the 10 Commandments on the tablets, God had a hand in the writings of the Bible.

  • Adonai438
    Adonai438

    I believe in fact only- and fact and proof show that yes, the Bible is inspired by God. I don't take that statement lightly-- There is so much proof for it that there is no room on here to go through it all. There is not any errors in the Bible as some accuse- the sad thing being that most of the people that claim that have not even read it (I mean it as in the whole thing or most of it not just a few passages). There is no othe historical document to date that has lasted unchanged, scientificly supported and archeologicly proven since its original writting. I won't go into details cuz no one asked to hear them but I have some great books on the topic that are very researched and easy reading that I can mail (free :) ) to anyone that wants to read up on it. Have fun <>< Angie

  • rem
    rem
    There is no othe historical document to date that has lasted unchanged, scientificly supported and archeologicly proven since its original writting. I won't go into details cuz no one asked to hear them

    I'd love to hear the details...

    Please post them here, if you would.

    rem

    "We all do no end of feeling, and we mistake it for thinking." - Mark Twain
  • Francois
    Francois

    If you mean was each and every word dictated by the spirit of God whispering in the ear of the writer, NO.

    If you mean the writers at least knew ABOUT the spirit, probably so.

    If you're talking about the old testament. NO on both counts.

  • Mr Bean
    Mr Bean

    IMHO, any material written by God should have some information
    which beyond any doubts would be out from this Earth.

    That would be a geographical, scientifically correct or prophetic information
    which could be not just a guess.

    Jesus' prophecies are not very reviling and today any person can use Jesus prophecies and fit in any period of time.

    Read prophecies of Mother Shipton.

    In these ones are clear indication that such information’s are impossible to just dream out
    It is an result of sick mind.

    It looks like someone is trying to tell us what he actually saw and tried hard to use the language which would be understood by people of all times.

    In the Bible is almost nothing this kind and that makes me wonder, why?

    God of the Bible had no idea?

    Some passages of Isaiah and especially Revelation do contains some things which have some very strong indication that this info comes from God.

    But, compare this with Shipton?

    And now a word, in uncouth rhyme
    Of what whall be in future time
    Then upside down the world shall be
    And gold found at the root of tree
    All England's sons that plough the land
    Shall oft be seen with Book in hand
    The poor shall now great wisdom know
    Great houses stand in farflung vale
    All covered o'er with snow and hail
    A carriage without horse will go
    Disaster fill the world with woe.
    In London, Primrose Hill shall be
    In centre hold a Bishop's See
    Around the world men's thoughts will fly
    Quick as the twinkling of an eye.
    And water shall great wonders do
    How strange. And yet it shall come true.
    Through towering hills proud men shall ride
    No horse or ass move by his side.
    Beneath the water, men shall walk
    Shall ride, shall sleep, shall even talk.
    And in the air men shall be seen
    In white and black and even green
    A great man then, shall come and go
    For prophecy declares it so.
    In water, iron, then shall float
    As easy as a wooden boat
    Gold shall be seen in stream and stone
    In land that is yet unknown.
    And England shall admit a Jew
    You think this strange, but it is true
    The Jew that once ws held in scorn
    Shall of a Christian then be born.
    A house of glass shall come to pass
    In England. But Alas, alas
    A war will follow with the work
    Where dwells the Pagan and the Turk
    These states will lock in fiercest strife
    And seek to take each others life.
    When North shall thus divide the south
    And Eagle build in Lions mouth
    Then tax and blood and cruel war
    Shall come to every humble door.
    Three times shall lovely sunny France
    Be led to play a bloody dance
    Before the people shall be free
    Three tyrant rulers shall she see.
    Three rulers in succession be
    Each springs from different dynasty.
    Then when the fiercest strife is done
    England and France shall be as one.
    The British olive shall next then twine
    In marriage with a german vine.
    Men walk beneath and over streams
    Fulfilled shall be their wondrous dreams.
    For in those wondrous far off days
    The women shall adopt a craze
    To dress like men, and trousers wear
    And to cut off their locks of hair
    They'll ride astride with brazen brow
    As witches do on broomstick now.
    And roaring monsters with man atop
    Does seem to eat the verdant crop
    And men shall fly as birds do now
    And give away the horse and plough.
    There'll be a sign for all to see
    Be sure that it will certain be.
    Then love shall die and marriage cease
    And nations wane as babes decrease
    And wives shall fondle cats and dogs
    And men live much the same as hogs.
    In nineteen hundred and twenty six
    Build houses light of straw and sticks.
    For then shall mighty wars be planned
    And fire and sword shall sweep the land.
    When pictures seem alive with movements free
    When boats like fishes swim beneath the sea,
    When men like birds shall scour the sky
    Then half the world, deep drenched in blood shall die.
    For those who live the century through
    In fear and trmbling this shall do.
    Flee to the mountains and the dens
    To bog and forest and wild fens.
    For storms will rage and oceans roar
    When Gabriel stands on sea and shore
    And as he blows his wondrous horn
    Old worlds die and new be born.
    A fiery dragon will cross the sky
    Six times before this earth shall die
    Mankind will tremble and frightened be
    for the sixth heralds in this prophecy.
    For seven days and seven nights
    Man will watch this awesome sight.
    The tides will rise beyond their ken
    To bite away the shores and then
    The mountains will begin to roar
    And earthquakes split the plain to shore.
    And flooding waters, rushing in
    Will flood the lands with such a din
    That mankind cowers in muddy fen
    And snarls about his fellow men.
    He bares his teeth and fights and kills
    And secrets food in secret hills
    And ugly in his fear, he lies
    To kill marauders, thieves and spies.
    Man flees in terror from the floods
    And kills, and rapes and lies in blood
    And spilling blood by mankinds hands
    Will stain and bitter many lands
    And when the dragon's tail is gone,
    Man forgets, and smiles, and carries on
    To apply himself - too late, too late
    For mankind has earned deserved fate.
    His masked smile - his false grandeur,
    Will serve the Gods their anger stir.
    And they will send the Dragon back
    To light the sky - his tail will crack
    Upon the earth and rend the earth
    And man shall flee, King, Lord, and serf.
    But slowly they are routed out
    To seek diminishing water spout
    And men will die of thirst before
    The oceans rise to mount the shore.
    And lands will crack and rend anew
    You think it strange. It will come true.
    And in some far off distant land
    Some men - oh such a tiny band
    Will have to leave their solid mount
    And span the earth, those few to count,
    Who survives this (unreadable) and then
    Begin the human race again.
    But not on land already there
    But on ocean beds, stark, dry and bare
    Not every soul on Earth will die
    As the Dragons tail goes sweeping by.
    Not every land on earth will sink
    But these will wallow in stench and stink
    Of rotting bodies of beast and man
    Of vegetation crisped on land.
    But the land that rises from the sea
    Will be dry and clean and soft and free
    Of mankinds dirt and therefore be
    The source of man's new dynasty.
    And those that live will ever fear
    The dragons tail for many year
    But time erases memory
    You think it strange. But it will be.
    And before the race is built anew
    A silver serpent comes to view
    And spew out men of like unknown
    To mingle with the earth now grown
    Cold from its heat and these men can
    Enlighten the minds of future man.
    To intermingle and show them how
    To live and love and thus endow
    The children with the second sight.
    A natural thing so that they might
    Grow graceful, humble and when they do
    The Golden Age will start anew.
    The dragons tail is but a sign
    For mankinds fall and man's decline.
    And before this prophecy is done
    I shall be burned at the stake, at one
    My body singed and my soul set free
    You think I utter blasphemy
    You're wrong. These things have come to me
    This prophecy will come to be.

  • gumby
    gumby

    Angie:..I believe in fact only- and fact and proof show that yes, the Bible is inspired by God.
    Amen sister!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Carmel
    Carmel

    FRED inspires me!

    caveman

  • ballistic
    ballistic

    ok, here's my uninspired opinion: I believe the Bible is a good book and part of my JW brain washing which is still active will still not allow me to show it disrespect. THe power of the mind is a strange thing. However, I believe that if you were to sit down and write a novel with God and life as the theme, would you make up events and say th Romans invaded Britain in 2001 and the American Cival War was in 1501? No, why would you even think of doing that? You would make it as acurate as possible. I have read many a novel based on true facts which if read in 5000 years time would most certainly pass for extremely accurate historical documents. Therefore I see many things in the British museum which relate to the the bible and many archaeological and geographical proofs of what an important book the bible is, however, I no longer believe in the God of the old testament, or in any possibility that it was written by such a God. After all, why would God write a book for us, mostly written in cryptic signs and leave it to imperfect humans to interpret it. If God wanted to talk to us, is he not powerfull enough? Why would God hide? When you step back and consider the full reality of what we ascribe to God, I can actually see it as demeaning and disrespectfull for us to place such limitations on God.

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