Your View of Holidays and Their Origins

by headisspinning 19 Replies latest jw friends

  • headisspinning
    headisspinning

    I am very curious about something... for those of you who have left the organization but still follow the Bible and consider yourself Christian... what holidays and celebrations have you embraced?
    How do you rationalize celebrating despite your knowledge of 'pagan' origins?

    I was born and raised a JW so it would seem really strange for me to start celebrating Christmas or Hallowe'en or Easter - maybe Mother's or Father's Day wouldn't be such a stretch - but I would really like to hear your thoughts and the conclusions you've come to.

    But I have to say I never got a satisfying answer as to why JWs aren't allowed to celebrate birthdays - the explanation that it promotes greed or selfishness or that the only record in the Bible of birthday celebrations involved murder - none of these really cut it for me.

    Thanks - HIS

  • nugget
    nugget

    When we left we decided to celebrate holidays whilst we decided which direction we planned to go in. Part of the reason for this was that not celebrating was originally intended to make the religion controversial and set the rank and file appart from other people and the pagan origins was just smoke and mirrors. My children experienced the full impact of this in school constantly being isolated from their peers and made to feel awkward and odd. We felt that it was important to celebrate our freedoms and create new family traditions that meant the children would remember their childhood with joy.

    Birthdays the logic is flawed the society warns that children are spoilt and made much of but really is that true. Yes for one day a year they are made to feel special and important but that is just one day. They will also celebrate many other people's birthdays where it is there job to make someone else feel special with no expectation of receiving anything. Birthdays teach our children to be generous and caring to experience the joy of making someone else happy. The fun they get in choosing or making gifts and watching someone open them is lovely. They remember these days and talk about them.

    Christmas the society used to celebrate Christmas and was able to justify it to their members. We try to do as much ourselves make our own decorations and christmas food. We don't over do the food and alcohol shopping but do have some treats. I buy through the year and hide things away. When on holiday I try to get little presents for the stokings that will remind people of the good time we had. The children get a real buzz choosing presents for others and writing out cards for friends and teachers. We have decided on some family traditions already and my son is happy to remind us about the christian meaning of Christmas. Our neighbours have been generous and given us some Christmas decorations so that this year we have the potential to be awesome. This is again an opportunity to get them to think of others and budgeting and to get them to think about what they can do themselves.

    Easter just chocolate really as an ante dote to memorial. Less chocolate next year for sure.

    Halloween my husband is an atheist but loves dressing up and taking my son out trick or treating. As I have volunteered in the local schools and the children know where I live we have a steady stream of visitors asking for sweets. We make our own costumes, last year my son was the invisble boy with a mask covered in stars and a cape with clouds on . My daughter was a pink and black cat and my husband was a zombie no makeup required.

    Mothers day - home made gifts and cards and it is all about showing appreciation. The same with father's day although we do take him out for a meal and make sure there is beer in.

    Valentines day - not a big deal although a box of chocs for us all to share goes down well.

    What it is is ensuring the children know the value of what they do and that sometimes you don't have to buy lavish gifts to show love for others. The children also get the excitement that only a wrapped gift will bring and they are part of the exchanging of cards and gifts with their peers.

    For us it was the right decision and for our children it was important.

  • looloo
    looloo

    hi there , do you celebrate your wedding anniversary ? because i believe weddings and rings have pagan origins ! that was one thing that helped me stop feeling guilty about celebrating the birth of christ , his reserection along with the arrival of some choclate eggs to hunt in the garden from the easter bunny ! i just dont take things so seriously now , last year was the 1st time i actually even saw halloween as just some harmless kids fun (i havnt been to a meeting for about 14 years !) but halloween was one thing i could not do untill last year when my little girl was upset that all her school frinds were knocking on the door dressed up but i hadnt got her an outfit for halloween for her ! next year she will do it also wth my blessing as it is just harmless fun and nothing to do with evil at all ! i have had a lot of pleasure seeing her hunt for easter eggs from the easter bunny and it makes me sad that my older children missed out on all this fun . by the way my little girl loves reading her childrens bible (from school ) and loves god ! (not due to any brain washing from me either , its just the way she is !)

  • moshe
    moshe

    Celebrating pagan holidays? RU worried about doing something wrong? It falls in the same category as the childhood sidewalk game- "step on a crack and you'll break your mother's back"- if you are superstitious, then avoid all holidays and everything else that has a pagan-spiritism label on it.

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    Romans chapter 14. Read it. Live it.

    Celebrate whatever you want and you shouldn't be judged for it. Neither should you judge anyone else for their holidays. Period.

    It is among the JWs most-ignored scriptures. It is right up there with Revelation 19:1.

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    September 22, 2003 Awake! Magazine, Page 24

    "A main concern is not what the practice meant hundreds of years ago, but how it is viewed today in your area."

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    There is no kool-aid in Awake! magazine.

  • Snowboarder
    Snowboarder

    Next Christmas I'm going to celebrate for the pagan version that my great*100 grandparents times celebrated it for. It's going to be called WINTER COME WITNER COME! LET IT SNOW! I'm going to pray to the snowboard & ski god to give me snow and strength to win races. I'll make snowboard and ski decorations and i'll fly out back home and give my family snowboard and ski gifts and spend the day hopeful in sarajevo, we do in on the catholic day since my mom's family is orthodox. It's going to be epic! Snowball fights and snow-people something i always wanted to do with family! walk up in the morning with coffee hug my grandparents and make breakfast for them! then teach my cousin to snowboard! Yup.

  • Joliette
    Joliette

    Mad Sweeney, so true. Both of the scriptures are ignored.

    Revelation 19:1 clearly says that a great crowd will be in heaven.

  • prophecor
    prophecor

    Hi Head Is Spinning. I celebrate the same Holy Days as those early Christians did in the 1st century church. They didn't deviate from the traditional Jewish Feast and Festival Days. They celebrated all the major Holy Days, as well as kept the Sabbath. Which one of God's 10 commandments would you be comfortable ignoring or didn't associate with enough importance to keep?

    If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, "Love your neighbor as yourself," [a] you are doing right. 9 But if you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as lawbreakers. 10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. 11 For he who said, "You shall not commit adultery," [b] also said, "You shall not murder." [c] If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker.

    We're not going to murder, commit adultery. Likewise we're not to ignore the Sabbath, or substitute doing any of the other 9 Commandments either. Jesus said he never came to destroy the Law. The Law as I've come to taught is concerning those 10 Commandments only, not the every little nuance of the 600 plus laws in the books of Moses. Even Jesus, when he was asked by the rich young ruler, "How do I gain everlasting life was directed by Jesus to continue following the law.

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