Maze is Spade aka Alice in Wonderland aka delusional...
Needed Organizational Changes for WT
by Kosonen 20 Replies latest watchtower bible
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MrFreeze
A good change would be to close up shop. I dont see that happening.
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Gayle
A quick, easy immediate fix is not possible.
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Mad Sweeney
I don't think the Maze troll is even a JDub. It's more like an apologetical automaton. Any of us who have been on this site for more than a couple months could go into any thread and create a post that is almost exactly what the Maze troll would produce. It is so predictable, in fact, that its sole purpose is to disrupt the conversations we try to have here. Of course, that is ALL trolls' purpose whether you're on a religion board, a football board, or a sci fi board. A troll is a troll; it isn't even a person. Even though there is some sort of human being banging the keys at the other end, the troll is simply one of his/her online personas, a made-up personality.
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wannaexit
Maze - Reenia
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wannaexit
Maze - Reenia
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Kosonen
Hi Maze, on paradisecafe forum melancholymuse had gathered a lot of scriptures showing how little was directed by apostles and older men from Jerusalem, and therefor it is very different from todays "governing body". So here is a copy of the material:
BUT WHAT DOES THE BIBLE REALLY TEACH REGARDING THE AUTHORITY OF THE GOVERNING BODY OVER THE MEMBERSHIP?Although the Watchtower Society adheres to a rigid system of dependence upon its Governing Body, the actual Bible accounts are certainly more relaxed in their view of the Biblical "Governing Body" system:
1. Phillip was dispatched directly by Jehovah's Angel and the Holy Spirit, not through the Governing Body's instructions (Acts 8: 26-40).
2. Peter was directly taught by the Holy Spirit outside of the Governing Body's instruction (Acts 10:9-28).
3. Peter wrote two letters of doctrinal teaching to several congregations without the Governing Body's oversight (Books of 1 and 2 Peter)
4. Barnabas was selected as an evangelizer through the Holy Spirit, not through the Governing Body's direction (Acts 13:2).
5. Paul and Barnabas themselves ordained men in some of the congregations without the direction of the Governing Body (Acts 14: 23)
6. Paul wrote several letters of doctrinal teaching to other congregations without the Governing Body's oversight (Books of Romans -Philemon)
7. Paul was spoken to directly from the Lord Himself -- not through the Governing Body (Acts 18:9).
8. Paul recommended a female minister without the Governing Body's direction (Romans 16:1)
9. Paul also taught things that weren't specifically decreed from the Governing Body (1 Corinthians 7:12, 1 Timothy 2:12).
10. Paul decided the rules on disfellowshipping / resinstatement, not the Governing Body (1 Corinthians 5:1-5 and 2 Corinthians 2:5-11).
First of all, please note that none of the above listed people were a part of a "Governing Body" stationed in Jerusalem as evidenced by the fact that they continued to travel from region to region to share the Good News of Christ (whereas the Watchtower's Governing Body remains stationary in its worldwide Headquarters located in Brooklyn NY, much like the Biblical "Governing Body" remained stationed in Jerusalem ).
Second, as shown by the above list of ten examples, if you search carefully through the Bible you will see that God's direction through a governing body was actually the exception, not the norm.
Therefore, the Governing Body's claim to spiritual authority is flawed, weak, and is unfairly usurping Christ's position in the Christian congregation. -
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The organisation is so corrupt it can no longer be tweeked or modified. This has become a case of if we wanted to worship God properly we wouldn't start from here.
Maze attacking other members is futile it does nothing to bolster your point of view it merely makes you seem callous and childish. You continue to disappoint.
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wantingtruth
Jan,
there is an inspired command for Christians
1 Tess. 5:
20. do not despise prophetic utterances.
21. But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good;
It is shown to us - in order to understand - that the GB is prefigured by the old Pharaoh - and his state of heart before God
he was incorrigible - "neck of iron" toward God's reminders/instructions
Isaiah 48:
4. Because I knew that thou (the GB ) art obstinate,
and thy neck is an iron sinew, and thy brow brass;
and it will happen like this
Micah 7:
15. As in the days of thy (sons of Jacob) coming forth out of the land of Egypt will I show unto them marvellous things.
the scene of "ten plagues" is going to repeat .the Pharaoh is incorrigible , the sheep must be taken from under his domination "with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm"
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regarding the final part of this Society , the One knowing the end of a thing from its beginning knows how it will end !
Jan, the action you want to do also others are trying ...
...but the result will be as it was prophesied in the inspired word:
Jeremiah 51:
9. “‘We would have healed Babylon,
but she cannot be healed;
let us leave her and each go to our own land,
for her judgment reaches to the skies,
it rises as high as the heavens.’
If you will be among those who leave her (Babylon) and will go to "your own land" (which is Zion for the "sons of Zion" ) ,
then you will can do what it is further said :
10. “‘The LORD has vindicated us;
come, let us tell in Zion
what the LORD our God has done.’friendly,
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