by 1975 36 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Wow, Robdar! Now that's a love story!
Moshe, what a beautiful daughter you have, and a great story on how you got her.
Isn't that the same thing?- the day your child was born is the same day, you became a family, just like us. Now that is the way to shut a JW up.
It's pretty hard to argue that kind of logic. Good for you. Every birth is a "gotcha day"; why can't dubs just see it that way because it makes perfect sense.
Moshe, your daughter is breathtaking. Prettier than any Hollywood starlet or model.
Robyn, I am delighted for you and your soul mate. I hope my own secret story will turn out so well.
Robyn
that was a touching story. Love feels so wonderful. Wish they would bottle it.
Palm Tree, that is a lovely story. I hope you have much happiness together.
FHN, I've had a feeling that something is going on. Afterall, I've been listening to all the love songs you've been posting on fb. I hope your secret story turns out to be fabulous and that you will soon reveal what is going on.
Violia:
Love feels so wonderful. Wish they would bottle it
Yes! Oh, yes!
Say prayers for me, Robyn. Maybe there will be a happy outcome.
Wonderful stories Rob & Palm and I hope yours works out too FHN. Mine is possibly old news on here but I cant resist it lol.
After the very bad times, divorce, Df, illness, all that awfulness...there was a point in time, early Spring 2008 to be exact, when, despite my protestions never to even want another relationship, I just knew that my Mr Wonderful, my soulmate, love of my life, was around the corner.
We 'met' via the internet discussing higher education, and we fell in love, completely, within a few weeks of that first 'meeting'. Our diverse and unusual circumstances had strangely provided a way for us to find one another. We had both spent our lives looking for each other too. We got married in January 2010, both in tears as we made our vows. I will post a link to one of the songs that we made our own because of the significance of the lyrics.
In the past we've both had wealth and status but no real happiness. Now we have little in material terms really but we have our love which is worth millions. I sometimes wish we were younger so that we had more time together left .... but my wonderful man says maybe we both had to be at the right point in our lives to discover and appreciate what we have. Who knows? I only know I adore him and its wonderful to be loved so much after waiting so long.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33zzpA-k4P0
Loz x
No one is getting an update from me for a very long time.
Your stories on here just make so many tears in my eyes!
Beautiful.
You are all winners, especially Moshe who probably saved a little girl's life.
I'd have loved to hear her baby talk in Russian.
Too cute.
And she grew up to be so beautiful.
How old is she?
FHN, I wish you the very best with your relationship.
Moshe, just beautiful! Wow! You really are the winner here.
Robdar, I have a story somewhat similar. 30 years ago a JW girl (me) met a nonJW guy at a new job. We became friends, debated religion, me on that soapbox tellin' him the what for...(sigh). He was living with a girl, I had just come out of a 3 year relationship with a nonJW and in no mood to have another one. About 6 months after we met, we ended up at a wedding of one of my staff and that afternoon he invited me to come to the beach and share a bottle of wine. A few days later he talked HR out of my address and ended up on my doorstep. My roomate was on her way out to "meeting", looked at me like "ok I've never heard of this guy and will you be okay?" She went to meeting, and we literally fell in love that evening listening to a new album I had just purchased.
Within a few weeks, he asked me to marry him, I said no because of the religion issue. He moved a few hours away, then he moved to the opposite coast sometime later. We were always attached, sorting things out, moving on. Sometime after that he flew back out and we hashed out the reasons for not being together, AGAIN, horrible painful conversations. But I could not do it, I was too entrenched in my JW world, no matter how much I loved him. Soon after, he wrote me that he was engaged, I was happy for him even though he said in the letter, "I am tired looking for another you."
We kept in limited touch through the following years, we saw each other a few times, but when the convo came to us, he was committed to his children and would not do anything until the youngest was 18. About 12 years ago, I severed it, and we had even more limited contact after that, maybe a "Happy New Year" or share a poem or something we thought the other would enjoy every year or two. I left the Witnesses 10 years ago, and couldn't even bring myself to tell him...couldn't find the words. I had to work through so many issues after leaving, and especially not giving our relationship a chance because of a religion I eventually left...well...I just somehow didn't want to discuss it. I eventually told him 2-3 years ago, and he was shocked. He said he always talked to JW's because he felt there must be something to it, because it would have to if I was involved. **sigh**
Last year, 3 weeks after my mother died, I received an email to call him, something that had never happened before. When we finally talked, he said he had started a divorce 4 mths earlier when his son went off to college. It is a terribly contentious divorce, she is Catholic...and mad as hell, even though they have had troubles for years and years.
Last year in June, he came out ostensibly to a family graduation, and then to see me. As a coinkidink, a friend posted an interview from NPR on my FB wall of the artist whose album I had just purchased and we listened to the night we fell in love. I was at work and couldn't play the link so I ended up clicking on her website (which I'd never been to) to read about the interview and see she had concert dates the very weekend my friend would be visiting. We could not believe it. I bought the tickets, which happened to be in a venue like a hippie Woodstock, camping sort of thing...lol, in one of my favorite parts of Cali, the central coast.
So...he came, and much like with Robdar, it's like no time has passed. Someone asked me if he had changed, and you know, time has changed our bodies, our hair is gray (well mine is dyed ;-)), our faces lined, our bellies soft...but the spirit is like when we met really. He says I'm more serious. He is incredibly proud of what I've been through in leaving JW, and calls me courageous. We got along incredibly well, together every minute for 4 days straight in a spectacular, beautiful area. He said as we were driving home, "I wonder why we never did this before?" LOL, well....I knew...JW!!!!!
He said we were always more alike than I thought. He was right. All I could see is where we differed; he saw where we were alike. I felt we argued a lot, he didn't see it that way. He felt we were just discussing our viewpoints. He was right. He was right. He was right. We are now on the same page with everything...even death and dying. I feel funny about being too mushy here, but the connection, the touch, the feel, the kisses, the smell too...is well, like a perfect, familiar, comfortable fit. Time didn't change a thing there. It's just amazing to me. To us both.
Ok, this is way too long. Sorry. I don't know the end of this story yet. He's got a lot to take care of, including rebuilding a business devasted in the recession. And actually, since I am free from the religion, I am enjoying 'me' right now, with no limits. I am excited with my new life and all that it brings. I no longer feel weakened from the unrequitted love I carried for so long, and strangely feel less tethered to him. He is thousands of miles away so that helps as he sorts his life out. But we really do have a story. He still makes me laugh, morning noon and night. He would tell people on our trip, "I've been chasing her for 30 years." I'd say, "29." Then he'd say, "we don't like to rush into things." lol.
So "cheers" to all...Robdar, palm, Loz, FHN. Life and love is strange and wonderful.
Awesome experiences Rabdar & Moshe, just plain awesome and tearful, many, many thanks.
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