Comments You Will Not Hear at the 06-05-11 WT Study (APRIL 15, 2011, pages 9-13)(SERIOUSNESS)
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SERVING JEHOVAH
WITH ALL SERIOUSNESS
“Whatever things are of serious concern, . . .
continue considering these things.”—PHIL. 4:8.
OPENING COMMENTS
The WTS thinks their organization is the only one worshiping God correctly, with seriousness. Taking a look at other religions, I see quite a bit of seriousness as well. Are jws serious about their vocation to preach? How many have had a “progressive” bible study, even with their own children? This is a hodgepodge article served up under the guise of “seriousness.” Like a shepherd’s pie….
START OF ARTICLE
1, 2. What has caused many in this world to have a
frivolous view of life, prompting what questions?
WE LIVE in a world that is experiencing
some of the most difficult and tragic
times in human history. For people who do
not have a sound spiritual foundation, coping
with these “critical times hard to deal
with” can be nearly impossible. (2 Tim. 3:
1-5) Only their own fortitude gets them
through each day—with limited success. In
an effort to avoid taking life too seriously,
many turn to the constant flow of amusements
of the entertainment world.
COMMENTS
There have been other times that have been most difficult and tragic—Black Plague.
“people who do not have a sound spiritual foundation = ALL NON-JWS
ONLY THEIR OWN FORTITUDE—LIMITED SUCCESS = they do not rely on God
MANY turn to CONSTANT…AMUSEMENTS = many = all non-jws
2 To cope with the stresses of life, people
often put the desire for pleasures in first
place. If not careful, Christians could easily
get caught up in this way of living. How can
we avoid that? Would it require that we be
serious all the time? How do we strike a balance
between pleasures and responsibilities?
What Scriptural principles should guide us,
so that while we are sober about life, we do
not take ourselves too seriously?
COMMENTS
CHRISTIANS = only JWs
Serious all the time…balanced???
Scriptural principles = WTS directives
What if other jws take us too seriously?
Being Serious in a World That Loves Pleasure
3, 4. How do the Scriptures help us to value the
need for being serious?
3 Needless to say, this world places undue
importance on ‘love of pleasure.’ (2 Tim.
3:4) Its emphasis on having a good time can
be a threat to our spirituality. (Prov. 21:17)
Thus, for good reason the apostle Paul’s
letters to Timothy and Titus also include
counsel regarding the subject of seriousness.
Applying that counsel will help us to counteract
the world’s frivolous view of life.
—Read 1 Timothy 2:1, 2; Titus 2:2-8.
COMMENTS
Do the scriptures help or WT “bible-based” publications?
Emphasis on having a good time = JW parties
4 Centuries earlier, Solomon wrote about
the value of forgoing pleasures at times in
order to take life seriously. (Eccl. 3:4; 7:2-4)
Indeed, because of the shortness of life, we
need to ‘exert ourselves vigorously’ to attain
salvation. (Luke 13:24) To that end, we need
to keep considering all the things that are of
“serious concern.” (Phil. 4:8, 9) That means
giving careful attention to every facet of
Christian life.
COMMENTS
Solomon = did he forgo pleasures to take life seriously = 1,000 wives?
So salvation is earned?
Christian life = only jws are true Christians
5. What is one area of life that we should take seriously?
5 For example, in imitation of Jehovah
and Jesus, Christians take seriously their responsibility
to work hard. (John 5:17) As a result,
they are often praised for their good
work ethic and dependability. Especially are
family heads concerned about working hard
to support their families. After all, not providing
materially for one’s household is tantamount
to having “disowned Jehovah”!
—1 Tim. 5:8, ftn.
COMMENTS
Christians = only JWs are TRUE Christians
Family heads = women as well if they have children but no husband
What happens if a jw women is the material support of her family and jw husband is jobless?
How do other jws judge whether another jw is materialistic?
A Serious yet Joyful View of Our Worship
6. How do we know that we should take seriously
our worship of Jehovah?
6 Jehovah has never taken true worship
lightly. As an example, under the Mosaic
Law, the Israelites experienced severe consequences
when they veered from their worship
of Jehovah. (Josh. 23:12, 13) In the first
century C.E., Christ’s followers needed to
put up a vigorous fight to keep true worship
free of corrupt teachings and attitudes.
(2 John 7-11; Rev. 2:14-16) Today, true Christians
continue to take their worship seriously.—
1 Tim. 6:20.
COMMENTS
True worship = only WTS teachings: what is worship per WTS?
True Christians = only JWs
7. How did Paul prepare for his ministry?
7 Our field ministry is a source of joy.
However, in order to maintain joy in the
ministry, we need to give it serious thought
and advance preparation. Paul explained
how he took into consideration the people
he taught. He wrote: “I have become all
things to people of all sorts, that I might by
all means save some. But I do all things for
the sake of the good news, that I may become
a sharer of it with others.” (1 Cor. 9:22,
23) Paul found pleasure in helping people
spiritually, and he gave serious thought to
how he would provide for the specific needs
of his listeners. Thus, he was able to give
them encouragement and incentive to worship
Jehovah.
COMMENTS
Field ministry = joy?
Serious thought and advance preparation:
Being a gardener, I know that it is more rewarding and “joyful” the more effective I am and the more produce I reap. Planting haphazardly, not weeding, not watering is sure to get me nothing.
Do jws “think” and “prepare?”
How many have even read a small part of the publication they are presenting…
With the view of interesting someone else?
How many even look at the canned presentation the WTS provides or listens to the part of the service meeting (assuming they are there…in congregations I attended this was the meeting least attended.)
How many actually return quickly to water the “seed” they planted in the form of a WTS publication or a conversation? How long would seeds or plants last in a garden if they were watered only once a month or later?
Are jws interested in the eternal lives of the people they call on or are the only doing this to “earn” their own eternal life? Or are they convinced that 99.9% of these people are “goats” and will never listen?
Do jws discuss Jesus or God? How often do the canned presentations feature “Jesus” or “kingdom”?
8. (a) What should be our attitude toward the people we
teach in our ministry? (b)How may conducting
a Bible study contribute to a joyful ministry?
8 How serious was Paul about his ministry?
He was willing to “slave” both for Jehovah
and for those who would listen to the
message of truth. (Rom. 12:11; 1 Cor. 9:19)
When we take on the responsibility to teach
people God’s Word—either during a home
Bible study, a Christian meeting, or a Family
Worship session—do we sense our responsibility
toward those we are teaching? Perhaps
we feel that conducting a regular Bible study
is too much of a burden for us to take on.
Granted, it usually calls for taking time from
our personal pursuits and devoting that
time to helping others. But is that not in the
spirit of Jesus’ words that “there is more
happiness in giving than there is in receiving”?
(Acts 20:35) Personally teaching others
the way to salvation will bring us happiness
that cannot be compared with any other
activity.
COMMENTS
Do jws “slave” where most put in under 10 hours a month? How much time do they spend watching TV each month…much more than 10 hours?
How many jws really want to be tied down to teaching people “God’s Word” (WTS publications)? How many try to turn this over to pioneers, elders, other jws…they do feel it is a burden, interfering with the entertainment.
If conducting a study brings so much happiness, why are few conducted here in the US, even with one’s own family? What happens when all the children living at home are baptized and the parents can no longer “count time.” Do they still conduct one?
I’ve told this before but it fits, the COBOE in my last congregation said that of the 20 studies reported only 2 were with people other than minor, unbaptized children and that much literature was reported as having been placed, but the number of return visits reported did not reflect that people had gone back. Now he was a special pioneer and understood the process.
9, 10. (a) Does being serious mean that we cannot
relax and enjoy spending time with people? Explain.
(b)What will help an elder to be encouraging
and approachable?
9 Being serious does not mean that we
cannot have a relaxing and enjoyable time
with people. Jesus set the perfect example of
taking time not only to teach but also to relax
and develop meaningful relationships
with others. (Luke 5:27-29; John 12:1, 2) Being
serious also does not mean that we
should always have an appearance of severity.
Had Jesus had a stern, overly serious nature,
people certainly would not have been
drawn to him. Even children were comfortable
with him. (Mark 10:13-16) How can we
imitate Jesus’ balanced manner?
COMMENTS
“Being serious does not mean that we
cannot have a relaxing and enjoyable time
with people.”
But it does mean it has to follow the rules and directives from the WTS. I remember in the early 80’s the WTS said we have to be sure that too many people did not attend…but it would not say what was too big and what was small enough.
Can you think of other rules that determine what activities are acceptable?
Did Jesus tell the family that held the wedding that they could not have more than 200 people and that too much wine could not be served, or that someone had to guard it so that someone did not drink too much?
How many elders are approachable, even children (except for the pedophiles)?
10 Referring to an elder, one brother stated,
“He expects much from himself but never
expects perfection from others.” Can that
be said of you? It is proper to have some reasonable
expectations of others. For example,
children respond well when parents set
reasonable goals and help the children to
reach them. Similarly, elders may encourage
individuals in the congregation to grow
spiritually and offer them specific suggestions
on how to do so. Furthermore, when
an elder has a balanced view of himself, he
will have a warm and refreshing manner.
(Rom. 12: 3) One sister said: “I don’t want an
elder to take everything as a joke. But if he is
serious all the time, it is difficult to approach
him.” Another said that she feels
that some elders “can be very intimidating
because they have an extremely serious nature.”
Never would elders want to diminish
the joyful view that all believers should
have of their worship of Jehovah, “the happy
God.”—1 Tim.1:11.
COMMENTS
Many if not most elders, Cos, Dos, expect perfection from others but not themselves; by excusing their mistakes due to human imperfection.
Proper to have reasonable expectations: Who decides what is reasonable for grown jws…do elders encourage or rather make feel guilty for not doing more, at the same time these elders do not set an example in the “field ministry”?
How many elders are there? With over 100,000 congregations, assume 3 per congregation, 300,000 plus elders. So we are to assume this one exemplifies 300,000 men?
Taking On Responsibility in the Congregation
11. What does it mean to be “reaching out” in the
congregation?
11 When Paul encouraged the men in the
congregation to strive to qualify for greater
responsibility, his intention was not to
encourage anyone to satisfy personal ambition.
Instead, he wrote: “If any man is
reaching out for an office of overseer, he
is desirous of a fine work.” (1 Tim. 3:1, 4)
“Reaching out” requires of Christian men
that they develop a strong desire to work
hard at acquiring needed spiritual qualities
in order to serve their brothers. If a brother
has been baptized at least one year and to a
reasonable degree meets the Scriptural qualifications
for ministerial servants outlined at
1 Timothy 3:8-13, he can be recommended
for appointment. Note that verse 8 specifically
states: “Ministerial servants should
likewise be serious.”
COMMENTS
Paul “encouraged.” Is that what you brothers found in your congregation, or were you pressured to “reach out” shamed?
What are the spiritual qualities the WTS wants to see, loving, forgiving, hopeful, see the good not the bad?
Where in the Bible does it set out the being baptized one year requirement?
12, 13. Describe ways young brothers may reach
out for responsibility.
12 Are you a serious baptized brother in
your late teens? There are several ways that
you can reach out. One is by improving your
personal share in the field ministry. Are you
the sort who enjoys working with brothers
of all age groups in the field service? Are you
trying to find someone with whom you can
study the Bible? When you conduct a Bible
study according to the suggestions given at
Christian meetings, you will improve your
teaching ability. Moreover, you will learn to
have empathy for the one learning Jehovah’s
ways. As your student begins to see the
need for making changes, you will learn
—patiently and discreetly—to help him to
apply Bible principles.
COMMENTS
So what value to serious baptized sisters have in the congregation? What can they “reach out” for.
Improving personal share = the national average hours around 10
So how many brothers are conducting a family study let alone with someone outside the family?
So these men cannot learn empathy by how they treat their family? If a brother abuses his wife and children, will he be appointed?
Teach to apply WTS directives = “Bible principles”
13 You young brothers can make yourselves
available to older ones in the congregation,
offering to assist them in any way
possible. You can also show an interest in the
appearance of the Kingdom Hall, helping to
keep it clean and neat. When you offer to
help out in any way you can, your willing
spirit gives evidence that you are serious
about your ministry. Like Timothy, you can
learn to care genuinely for the needs of the
congregation.—Read Philippians 2:19-22.
COMMENTS
I watched a 10 year old NOT baptized brother be allowed to handle the timing in the theocratic school = is that right?
Yes, the elders want to know what kind of CHORE BOY you will prove to be (a brother gave me that term).
When the elders are forced to handle the mikes because there are hardly any brothers “qualified” to do it, it is demeaning for them. They have progressed past that point. I wonder who would have been the brother in charge of foot washing, not an elder.
14. How can young brothers be “tested as to fitness”
to serve in the congregation?
14 Elders, be conscious of putting to work
young brothers who are endeavoring to
“flee from the desires incidental to youth”
and who are pursuing “righteousness, faith,
love, peace,” along with other serious traits.
(2 Tim. 2:22) By assigning them things to do
In the congregation, they can be “tested as to
fitness” to shoulder responsibility, so that
their “advancement may be manifest to all
persons.”—1 Tim. 3:10; 4:15.
COMMENTS
Young brothers = that seems to confirm by implication that few older adult men are being found and converted to be jws.
Tested as to fitness = do they show up and on time. In congregations I have attended many young brothers were late and other “really reliable” men had to cover for them, week after week yet they were still appointed as MS, where they continued to be late and have someone else cover for them.
Demonstrating Seriousness in the Congregation and the Family
15. According to 1 Timothy 5:1, 2, how may we
show seriousness in our view of others?
15 Seriousness includes according our
brothers and sisters dignity. In his counsel to
Timothy, Paul addressed the need to view
others with respect. (Read 1 Timothy 5:
1, 2.) This is especially important when
dealing with those of the opposite sex. Job’s
example of dignifying women, especially his
marriage mate, is worthy of imitation. He
made a conscious effort to keep from gazing
lustfully at another woman. (Job 31:1) Taking
our brothers and sisters seriously would
rule out flirting with them or doing anything
that would make a brother or a sister
feel uncomfortable around us. Dignifying
others is especially important when two
people are pursuing a romantic relationship
with marriage in mind. A serious Christian
would never toy with the emotions of one of
the opposite sex.—Prov. 12:22.
COMMENTS
What do they mean by dignifying women?
*** w07 2/15 p. 15 par. 9***
Wisely, Christian men—both married and those considering marriage—will study the dignified way in which Jesus treated women. He welcomed them into the group accompanying him in his ministry, and he treated them with kindness and respect. On one occasion, Jesus even revealed a most startling truth to women first, telling them to inform the men about it!—Matthew 28:1, 8-10; Luke 8:1-3.
So how many times do you see men go with women in the field service, even their own wives or daughters? The men jump into the car with each other under the guise of combining manly duties with field service, or training a brother as the women are relegated with the small children and the rest of the women.
Do you think articles comparing women to cows sexually is dignifying? Where are the scriptures of words from Christ to this matter? Rather Jesus talked about men divorcing their wives for no reason and that if men looked on a woman with lust it was the same as having sex with her.
Jesus did not wait for the men to show up to reveal himself.
***w61 12/15 pp. 767-768 Questions From Readers ***
Howcan girls guard against temptation in this sex - crazy world?
When a girl reaches the age of puberty or physical maturity, her body has developed in the matter of sex more than in the mind. Young folks like to be together, first in groups, later in twos. If they have not been instructed by their parents in regard to the matter of sex, a boy and a girl are likely to become too familiar and to engage in what is popularly called petting or necking. They may practice this for a time and see no bad results. However, the time will come when there will be great danger in such actions. Why? In answer to this question, we can learn about nature and sex from the bovine family of mammals, both wild and tame.
Large herds of cattle, both male and female, wander over the plains feeding. Ordinarily the male or bull would not think of approaching the female or cow for sex purposes. If he did approach he would not receive a hearty welcome, but, rather, he might be gored by the cow’s horns. There is no petting or sex relations between bull and cow permitted, because the female is not in physical condition to breed. The bull seems to understand this and keeps in his own place. However, when the female of the species is in condition to breed, she makes the matter known. If there is no male in the herd, she will go elsewhere looking for one and she is unsettled until she finds one and then is bred by him. Now she is contented, and the end result is a calf. In this connection it is interesting to note that the male animal has no season at which he is not willing to engage in the breeding act.
If we humans would take a lesson from these creatures, we would learn something of importance in matters of sex , as to its purpose and the results of its operation.
As with a cow, when a young girl who has reached her puberty is in physical condition to conceive and become pregnant, her sex emotions are greatly aroused. If she has association with a boy, she is inclined to think that it is the sweetness of the “boy friend” that causes this delightful and new feeling, and so she becomes infatuated with him. If the boy friend should become sexually aroused and lets her know it and then she yields her body to the advances of the amorous boy friend, she is likely to become pregnant as a result of just one sex experience of this kind.
Some persons foolishly think that they know when it is “safe” to have sex contact with those of the opposite sex and thus avoid becoming pregnant, but this is a serious mistake on their part. Even learned biologists do not know exactly when there is no danger of conception for a woman. This is due to certain irregularities in the case of various females.
When the ovum, that is, the egg cell from which the baby starts, is at large or is on its way from the woman’s ovary through her Fallopian tube to the uterus, there it remains for an uncertain length of time, which varies greatly with different females. Then is the time when conception can take place if the ovum is met by a male life sperm. During that same time the female is sexually aroused and is ready for the sex act that at this time will cause a baby to result. This bearing of children is the sole privilege of the female. In fact, this is one main reason for creating the female of the human species.
There are cases where a girl became pregnant as a result of one sex interview with a boy. What a price for a girl, a virgin, to pay for a few minutes of satisfied sex emotions! When persons start in this dangerous and sinful course, they find it hard to overcome future temptations. When a young, unmarried girl falls to the temptation, the price she pays is terrible: shame, sorrow, a ruined reputation, endless troubles, with the danger of being disfellowshiped from a congregation if the girl is a dedicated member. It is high time for girls to understand the make-up of their bodies and its functions, especially with regard to sex. Then if a girl understandingly takes care of herself while the ovum is at large and is causing sex disturbance and cravings within her, she will be able to act like a true lady of irreproachable morals at all times. She will avoid the violating of her virginity and the shame and conscience-stricken state due to this; and wisely she will direct her young life so as to end up in the position of a clean, happy wife and mother of legitimate children, journeying to the new world of righteousness, where there will be no sex problems amid a sex-crazy population.
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Do you realize that in Job’s day he could have multiple wives and still have God’s blessing? What about have sex with them….in the Law he would have had to pay a fine to the father and marry them.
What is flirting? One elder was told he was talking too much to the sisters about their problems at the KH. Not the same sister over and over and not without a chaperone or in the KH…so if the elders do not counsel the sisters, who will, the elders’ wives?
Toy with the emotions….serious Christian = only jws
16. Contrast the view some in the world have of the
role of husband and father with how the Bible describes
his role.
16 We also need to be careful to maintain
a serious view of our God-given roles in the
family. Satan’s world is making a mockery of
the role of husband and father. The entertainment
industry takes pleasure in reducing
the family head to a mere subject of ridicule
and disrespect. However, the Scriptures
place a great deal of responsibility on the
husband, assigning him as “head of his
wife.”—Eph. 5:23; 1 Cor.11:3.
COMMENTS
God-given roles in the family.
I guess most if not all tv and movie comedies are forbidden then.
17. Explain how our participation in family worship
can show that we are serious about our responsibilities.
17 A husband may provide materially for
his family. But if he does not provide spiritual
direction, he would be displaying a lack of
discretion and wisdom. (Deut. 6:6, 7) Thus,
1 Timothy 3:4 says that if you are the head of
a family and are reaching out for extra privileges
in the congregation, you must be
a man who is “presiding over his own household
in a fine manner, having children in
subjection with all seriousness.” In this regard,
ask yourself, ‘Do I regularly set aside
time for family worship in my household?’
Some Christian wives virtually have to beg
their husbands to take the lead spiritually.
Each husband should take a serious look
at his own view of this responsibility. Of
course, a Christian wife should be supporting
the Family Worship arrangement and be
cooperating with her husband to make it
a success.
COMMENTS
So only husbands provide materially? Most families I see have husband and wife working and not for the extras.
How many families have only a mother at the head…what about their efforts?
Christian wives = only jws
If they have to beg their husbands, would he qualify for an MS or elder. If it is not a success, is the blame then on the wife for not “cooperating” “to make it a success? What comes first, congregation duties or family duties?
18. How may children learn to be serious?
18 Children are also encouraged to take life
seriously. (Eccl. 12:1) There is no harm in
young children learning to work hard, doing
chores in the home that are reasonable for
their age and abilities. (Lam. 3:27) When
King David was still a young boy, he learned
to be a fine shepherd. He also learned to
be a musician and a composer—skills that
led him to serve before the ruler of Israel.
(1 Sam. 16:11, 12, 18-21) No doubt, as a lad
David knew how to be playful, but he also
learned valuable skills that he later used
to praise Jehovah. His skills as a shepherd
helped him to lead the nation of Israel patiently.
You young people, how many useful
skills are you learning—skills that will help
you to serve your Creator and prepare you
for future responsibilities?
COMMENTS
So should boys do the dishes and laundry or is that a female task? Yes, even as an adult David knew how to be “playful” by taking another man’s wife sexually and having him killed to cover up his sin. Obviously, his “patience” was not evident in his treatment of Bathsheba and her husband.
Young people = only jws or children of = skills that need not be learned in college/university, of course.
***w05 10/1 p. 31 par. 18 Parents—What Future Do You Want for Your Children? ***
Studies show that in many countries, there is an acute need, not for university graduates, but for people to work in the trades and services. USAToday reports that “70% of the workers in the coming decades will not need a four-year college degree, but, rather, an associate degree from a community college or some type of technical certificate.” Many such institutions offer short courses in office skills, auto repair, computer repair, plumbing, hairdressing, and a host of other trades. Are these desirable jobs? Certainly! Perhaps they are not as glamorous as some might envision, but they do offer the means and the flexibility needed by those whose true vocation is service to Jehovah.
A husband must provide both materially
and spiritually for his family
Keeping a Balanced View
19, 20. What balanced attitude are you determined
to maintain toward yourself and your worship?
19 We can all strive to keep a balanced
view of ourselves—not taking ourselves too
seriously. We would not want to become
“righteous overmuch.” (Eccl. 7:16) Some
levity can break tense moments, whether in
the home, at work, or when dealing with
our Christian brothers and sisters. Family
members will want to be careful about being
overly critical so that they do not erode
the safe haven of peace that a home should
be. In the congregation, all can learn to
laugh with and enjoy one another, keeping
conversations and our teaching manner upbuilding
and positive.—2 Cor. 13:10; Eph.
4:29.
COMMENTS
Are elders “righteous overmuch” when they expect “double honor” from the rank and file when they are “good-for-nothing slaves” doing what they ought?
(Luke 17:10) So YOU, also, when YOU have done all the things assigned to YOU, say, ‘We are good-for-nothing slaves. What we have done is what we ought to have done.’”
Here is the WTS definition of being “righteous overmuch.” Can you think of some man-made (WTS) rules that are “too” important?
*** w98 8/1 p. 11 par. 16 *** The example of the scribes and Pharisees, on the other hand, reminds us that if we would exercise divine justice, we should not be “righteous overmuch.” (Ecclesiastes 7:16) Seeking to impress others with showy displays of righteousness or attaching excessive importance to man-made rules will not bring us God’s approval.—Matthew 6:1.
“some levity” = of course, determined by the WTS as to what is appropriate
*** w91 11/15 p. 22 par. 16*** A public speaker should be a model of confidence and poise. Some try to amuse their hearers with many witty remarks made just for the purpose of getting laughs.
“overly critical” = implies that being critical is a good thing, what happened to advice and encouragement?
20 We live in a world that does not take
Jehovah or his laws seriously. In contrast,
Jehovah’s people are very concerned about
their obedience and loyalty to their God.
What a pleasure it is to be part of such a large
association of people who worship Jehovah
“with all seriousness”! May we be determined
To maintain a serious view of our life and worship.
COMMENTS
The WTS says there are no TRUE Christians except jws = all others do not take God and his laws seriously. I wonder what the Baptists, or others would think of this statement?
Jehovah’s people = jws are only concerned about their loyalty and obedience to the WTS. Not part of them no access to God (or Jesus for that matter).
How Would You Answer?
Why should we counteract the
world’s frivolous view of life?
How can we be joyful yet serious
about our ministry?
How does our view of taking on
responsibility show whether we are
serious or not?
Explain why dignifying our brothers
and family members is a serious
matter.
CONCLUDING COMMENTS
Next week, MAKE DECISIONS THAT HONOR GOD, or that honor the WTS? Is it that too many jws are not making decisions that the WTS approves of?
Love, Blondie