They Came, They Said, They Left

by snowbird 33 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • snowbird
    snowbird
    Exactly 40 years to the day... I sat there as the Sun came over the horizon and ended the bitter struggle, this religion brought on our family.

    Podo, the WT religion has torn many a loving family into shreds. I'm deeply sorry for getting my family involved in it.

    But, I have not abandoned faith and hope that one day I will see my mother again.

    That is also my hope - to be reunited with The Ancestors in peace and security. The Devil take petting lions and eating grapes!

    Yes, they came, They Said, They left, and my Dad has finally realized his selfishness and the struggle we have all had.

    I believe a lot of JW's are beginning to see just how very selfish and materialistic their so-called Christian hope really is.

    Your story is so compelling.

    Thanks for sharing it with the board.

    Syl

  • Podobear
    Podobear

    Enchante...

  • LongHairGal
    LongHairGal

    Quendi:

    The religion's 1995 changed teaching on "Generation" was what totally did it for me. As far as I was concerned, the religion should have packed it in right then and there. They had zero credibility to me. I also was very put off by their insulting way of just slipping it into the article without any alert in the title. Did they think everybody was not going to notice this sleight of hand??? I was just as angry that they pulled a fast one as I was disappointed about the actual bad news. It was not as though I didn't have a laundry list of beefs about the religion but this really took the cake for me. I may have lingered in the religion for another five years but I was like a zombie and I made other plans in my life.

    The fallout from this 1995 changed teaching on Generation may not have been immediate but eight to ten years later the effects were seen as people decided to make other plans in their life and some left the religion. I began my "fade" the end of 2000.

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    I remember the AP picked up on the 1995 "this generation" change, and even quoted Ray Franz's opinion about it.

    Syl

  • Joliette
    Joliette

    I remember this one elder talking about 1975 during a bookstudy, and he said that PEOPLE jumped ahead of the organization...and that it was PEOPLE'S fault for 'getting ahead of things' well...I believed it when I was a brainwashed dub...I believed it.

    I read Crisis of Conscience...and it BLEW ME AWAY!!!!!

    I was born in 1983, so I didnt know about any of this.

  • warmasasunned
    warmasasunned

    i was baptized in 86.....

    i also heard the 75 tale of some brothers getting a head of themselves being to keen to see the end of this system of things......

    i imagine thats how they explain the 1914 tale......

    weird days, so glad i left.

  • Heaven
    Heaven

    All my family born on or before 1914 are dead. "This Generation" most definitely passed away. I was 12 in 1975. Six to 7 years later my Mom was STILL trying to convince me and my bro. that the Big A was just around the corner so we shouldn't go to College. Yeah, right.

    Syl, your thread title conjured up images of Hopper from Bug's Life so thought I'd share a pic:

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    LOL @ Heaven's pic.

    The WT organization is so eerily similar to the one depicted in 1984.

    Syl

  • Bungi Bill
    Bungi Bill

    They (i.e. The WTS) can argue forever that they "never said in print that Armegeddon will come in 1975":

    - but this, however, is never going alter the fact that what they did put in print was written in such a way as to leave readers to arrive at that conclusion.

    Furthermore, this was done deliberately - simply because they wanted their readers to reach this conclusion.

    For example:

    - Awake of October 8, 1966: (p.19). I can remember like it was yesterday my non-JW mother's remarks after reading this article. To quote "They say Armegeddon is going to be in 1975."

    - Watchtower of August 15, 1968: The title of this article was "Why are you looking forward to 1975?" (p.499). This mentioned a matter of "weeks or months - not years" between the end of 6000 years of human existence and Armegeddon.

    - Awake of October 8, 1968: This featured an article entitled "What will the 1970s bring?"(p.13). Amongst other things, the phrase "how fitting" was used if Armegeddon coincided with the end of 6000 years of human existence. (This article also stated that "The Generation" was that which was old enough to actually have understood that it was witnessing the beginning of the Time of the End - not old enough to have been merely alive then).

    Elsewhere they actually cautioned about "hiding" (their words, not mine) behind the scripture that "the day or the hour, nobody knows".

    However much the WTS has tried to wriggle out of this ever since, at the end of the day their own literature still condemns them. It matters little that they "did not outright print that the end will come in 1975." The thought that their literature did leave hanging there was just as destructive as if they had said it outright. Furthermore, this was not in any way accidental - the WTS wanted us to believe that.

    Bill.

    PS:Many now claim that they never believed what the Society said about 1975. However, in the years leading up to that date, I never met one JW who expressed any such doubts. The expression "Hook, line and sinker" comes to mind!

  • luna2
    luna2

    I started studying around about 1985 and knew nothing of the 1975 debacle....until the sister I was studying with brought it up. I'm sure she did it to head off any criticism from my relatives, but since they didn't know specifics, there wasn't much they could argue with me. I just wish I'd done more research. I completely bought the "running ahead" excuse and the "cleansing of the congregation" excuse.

    I read Terry's post about reality/truth vs unreality this morning....I was firmly rooted in fantasy for a long time. I didn't want to have to prove things or think too hard. I wanted someone to tell me that I was a good person and that "meek" people would be rewarded. I purposely closed my eyes to those things I didn't want to see. I often wonder if I would have been one of those who swallowed the WTS's explanations, accusations and excuses for the failed 1975 date.

    For me the watershed was the big "generation" meaning change, and it took me a good long while after they changed the meaning of generation to finally realize what a fantasy it all was. There was always a certain amount of discomfort and pain involved with being a JW....and that's how I convinced myself that it was really real....but when the pain becomes constant, some do wake up.

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