Straddling the fence or leading a double life.

by garyneal 14 Replies latest jw friends

  • garyneal
    garyneal

    A subject that I know a lot of you can relate to. My wife admits to leading a double life in regards to her spiritual activities. It comes with the territory, I suppose. My 40th birthday just came and went yesterday without any fanfare, and to tell you the truth it didn’t really bother me too much. Perhaps because it was my 40th birthday or perhaps because my daughter got to go to a friend’s birthday party that very same day and my wife even picked out the birthday gift and even attended the first part of it. It was Sunday and she had to go to the 12:00 p.m. meeting so she had to leave during the party but returned afterward. Or perhaps it was something she said to me the night before my birthday….

    I’ve been trying to get to know the real her lately, trying to find out what makes her tick. I’m surprised by some of the things she tells me and is certainly not something your average witness would say. Or perhaps maybe it is given the stuff I read here on the message board.

    She told me that she seems very lonely at times because she does a lot of things alone that is without me or the kids. I did not realize she felt this way for outside of her college and the meetings on Sunday mornings, we do a lot of things together. In fact, it seemed to me that we as a family spend a great deal of time together. So, I asked her what her ideal life would look like if she could have it. I was expecting her to say something along the lines us going to the meetings, going out in field service, the assemblies, the district conventions, etc, etc like a very happily married Jehovah’s Witness family. I was surprised at her response.

    “We would go to the meeting tomorrow and I would throw you a big birthday party that I was planning for years to celebrate your going over the hill.”

    WHAT?! So she would have her cake and eat it too, I thought. Clearly she is not a full believing Jehovah’s Witness, I told her, and she agreed. She said that she felt like she is now straddling the fence again with her spirituality. She let on one time that she only goes out in field service out of obligation and she only follows this religion simply because she does not want to die.

    I find it sad to see her so trapped like this, wanting to be herself but not allowing herself to because she is afraid she is going to die for it. I have to admit, Christians have this problem too but a lot of them do to a lesser extent simply because the majority feel like all they have to do is say the “right magic word” (Jesus) and everything is okay. In addition to that, there are so few rules that a Christian has to adhere to in comparison. Granted, there are some who push doctrinal rules and “works” but the vast majority of them (including the Watchtower) wind up saying things that contradict what they’ve previously said. It is for these reasons why I stopped focusing on “orthodoxy” while trying to focus more on love. I’m not trying to sell or defend Christianity because I realize that it has its problems too. I agree with Pascal when he stated that to make good people do evil things takes religion.

    I did pose a question for her to see if she got it, not that I am sure if I got it. When the Easter candy went on sale for 90% off after the Easter holiday passed, why did she buy it? Why is it okay to buy Easter candy on sale after the holiday as opposed to buying it before the holiday? She basically stated, in a roundabout way, that the holiday was over and therefore it is not ‘considered’ participating in the celebration anymore. I’ll buy that but I asked her was it ever published in a Watchtower or spoken about by a brother on the podium in this manner? Did she hear or read this line of reasoning somewhere? Did her mom, perhaps, teach her this? She replied no on all accounts.

    Truth is, I thought about this myself on the very day that she bought those candies. How can she touch ‘the unclean thing’ when the holiday is over and the candy is 90% off? I knew that it was because it is no longer ‘unclean’ to her after the holiday but if that was the case could it not be ‘unclean’ before? I thought it could not have been since the mere passing of the event did not change the candy in any way. Then it dawned on me, the ‘rules’ that are guiding our life are our own rules that we choose to accept even if we make some of them up. In a more profound sense, the unseen force that is guiding us and moving us along in this life, are ourselves.

    When I told her this, I don’t think she got it. For all I know, I’m not sure if I got it either.

  • clearpoison
    clearpoison

    Thanks for sharing, your situation seem lots less complicated than mine based on this.

    The answer to your question is very clear in my head. It's lots cheaper, I would do that too.

    CP

  • Broken Promises
    Broken Promises

    First off, Happy 40th Birthday!!!

    I think your wife is having second thoughts about this religion she's got herself into. She's conflicted because she can see that there are things the Witnesses condemn (like Easter and birthdays) which are completely normal for anyone to do.

    Just give her time. I think (and hope) that she will eventually realise that God isn't going to kill her for being her authentic self.

  • Nickolas
    Nickolas

    Insightful post, garyneal. How much truer can you be than to be true to yourself?

  • MrFreeze
    MrFreeze

    If there was a way you could convince her of no Armageddon...

  • corpusdei
    corpusdei

    Was she raised in the Witnesses or did she join later in life?

    I ask because, while the belief and control system that comes with the Witnesses can be difficult to shake in any case, a lot of the beliefs can be very ingrained and hard to move away from for people who were raised in that faith. I've been out for 10+ years, as an example, and I'm still uncomfortable attending birthday parties (or particularly celebrating my own). In my experience, because so many of the Witness practices go against social norms, that rationalization that you mention about the easter candy begins to develop almost as a defense or coping mechanism. It's a way for us to feel normal, almost, even if just tangentally.

    Although I certainly don't have the total grasp of the situation that you would, there are a couple of things that I would suggest.

    It does sound like she's on the fence, so she's certainly questioning things, and I would suggest gentle encouragement of that. Ask questions that would help lead her to see the world outside of the Witnesses. I say ask, because the Witness religion is set up so that outright criticism feeds back into evidence that the Witnesses are right, and pushing the issue can have the opposite effect that you're looking for.

    The other thing is the sense of community. Again, looking back on my own experience, in some ways that fear was making a deeper fear of losing the community and support structure provided by the church. I didn't want to die and not be in Paradise on Earth(tm). So help her make or strengthen social ties outside of the Witnesses. Seeing that non-witnesses are not all the immoral, God-hating, threats to spiritual life and limb that the Witnesses teach will go a long way both in helping her find a path completely away as well as helping her start to de-wire the Witness programming. Ultimately, though, it will take time - especially if she was raised as a Witness. The mindset is so insidiously wrapped around every aspect of life that she may always be working against it on some level, no matter how far she distances herself from the church. So be patient and understanding, even if it's something that you don't understand.

    I know I and many of the ex-JWs here on the board would be happy to talk with her, about some of the conflicts or questions she may be having, or even just about the experiences we've had in and outside of the Witnesses. Talking to someone who's seen both sides of the fence, who has seen that fishbowl inside and out, who's left and is still standing, can absolutely make a difference.

    So good luck, and I wish both of you the best.

  • garyneal
    garyneal
    The answer to your question is very clear in my head. It's lots cheaper, I would do that too.

    Care to share or should it simply remain in your head?

    I think your wife is having second thoughts about this religion she's got herself into. She's conflicted because she can see that there are things the Witnesses condemn (like Easter and birthdays) which are completely normal for anyone to do. Just give her time. I think (and hope) that she will eventually realise that God isn't going to kill her for being her authentic self.

    Thanks for the birthday wishes.

    I remember when I left the Independent Fundamental Baptists how bitter towards religion I felt. Frankly, I did not care if I was God's son or not and I remember even praying that I wanted out of the family. I think the folks in college showed me that you did not have to be legalistic and focused on doctrine to be a Christian. Unfortunately it is not that easy for a Jehovah's Witness. My old IFB church folded which proved to me, in my mind at least, that there really was something indeed wrong with that church. Breaking free for a born in Jehovah's Witness is a lot harder.

    Insightful post, garyneal. How much truer can you be than to be true to yourself?

    So true, Nick. I remember telling my wife that when the Halloween holiday comes around, I find it particularly comical that the area churches would have 'Fall Festivals' where the kids can dress up and all. How can they believe for a minute that they are fooling God with that? I guess in a sense, they are though since 'Fall Festivals' are not 'unclean.' Hmmmm, I celebrate Halloween.

    If there was a way you could convince her of no Armageddon...

    What, with all the earthquakes and other apocolyptic things going on?

  • nancy drew
    nancy drew

    happy birthday

    I think that with most jw's there is a slow erosion of trust and belief in the org and its like edgeing your way out on the diving board it's scary to jump but when you make that break it's traumatic.

    As one becomes increasingly discontent it causes stress so I hope she will soon make the jump at least you will be there to catch her.

  • garyneal
    garyneal

    Thanks corpusdei,

    She's a born in and we've been through the sleigh ride of her breaking away and celebrating the holidays and living a 'worldly' life and then running back in. She married me, a worldly, during that period. When she went back in, it made me question my beliefs and begin researching. Discovering rather quickly that their TRUTH isn't. That later led me to find out many uncomfortable things about my own beliefs and therefore, I've had to make changes. You can actually see this progression here by looking at my old posts.

    She has friends outside the TRUTH and she sees that it is not all that bad. I think this is what bothers her.

    I've already told her that she sounds like a lot of the people on this board and even encouraged her to look here. She's not interested. There is nothing worse than an apostate.

  • garyneal
    garyneal

    Thanks Nancy Drew.

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