Famous B-17 Liberty Belle crashed this morning in Illinois

by james_woods 21 Replies latest social entertainment

  • moshe
    moshe

    My son is an A&P and he has seen plenty of metal fatigue on newer airplanes. At some point in my lifetime I imagine all the WW2 planes will become static displays only. I am glad there was no loss of life.

  • poppers
    poppers

    In fact, I am working on a fighter aircraft which will be a static display,

    What kind of fighter, hubert?

  • hubert
    hubert

    F-4 Phantom. (See my avatar).

    Vietnam era fighter.

    Hubert

  • hubert
    hubert

    "At some point in my lifetime I imagine all the WW2 planes will become static displays only. I am glad there was no loss of life".

    Moshe, there are still WW1 aircraft out there flying, unless I am wrong and they are newer copies.

    I suppose the planes are inspected for cracks, Moshe. Perhaps we'll find out if your theory is right in a few years. I'm happy to hear your son is an A&P man. It must be rewarding to do that. Me, I'm just a tape and wire guy. LOL !!

    Hubert

  • sizemik
    sizemik

    Thanks for posting the article james . . . I've been looking for an article on this since a short news article appeared on national telly here last night. As a pilot with an aviation mad son . . . this is a sad loss. My son knows the names of just about every WW2 veteran still flying (no kidding). He knows this aircraft and has shown me pictures of it from his collection.

    New Zealand has a large classic aircraft following inspired by Sir Tim Wallis, and the avid interest of the film producer Sir Peter Jackson. An irrecoverable loss like this is felt by all classic enthusiasts.

  • sizemik
    sizemik
    F-4 Phantom. (See my avatar).
    Vietnam era fighter.
    Hubert

    Hubert . . . we are very proud owners down here in NZ of our 1956 NA T-28C c/n 226-140, ex N583GH It's now operated by a Warbirds Association syndicate as ZK-JGS. The aircraft is operated in a USN trainer scheme of VA122 with the original Bu.No.140563.

    A T-28 Trojan in US Navy colours zooms over the crowd. The aircraft, designed to replace the Harvard, was used in post WW2 training and counter insurgency missions. OH 08-0166-46.jpg. Photo courtesy AC Craig Olsen.

  • JeffT
    JeffT

    It is sad to loose another one. We built 12,000 of them and now there are only a few left. I've seen both a B-29 and a B-17 in the air. The -29 is an impressive plane, but I think the -17 is better looking.

  • sizemik
    sizemik

    Liberty Belle . . . in all her glory

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep

    I thought I recognised those engines.

    A quick Google and I find that I have been hauled aloft several times by planes with a slightly larger version of the same engine. Nice.

    One of them fell out of the sky after a door opened in mid-air. I wasn't on it, but the pilot of one of my flights was.

  • james_woods
    james_woods

    Great photo, sizemik.

    Better than what we had on the aviation forum where I got the original story, in fact.

    To continue Hubert's point, yes - these planes are restored to a very solid airworthy state. But things can still happen - after all, we probably lost more B-29s to engine fires than to japanese enemy fire when they were new and in service.

    As to the WW1 fighters still around, even the so-called "originals" seem to me to be more of a modern reconstruction than a true restoration.

    Please not that I was not saying we should ground all the flying warbirds - just that we should be very careful with them and that suitable static displays should be assured so that generations ahead can see these historical planes.

    James

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