It would not be that difficult to do. Don't think for a moment that they are not tracking WHO goes to their site (including but not limited to IP, ISP, location, lat-long, etc) and from WHICH browser or SITE the user "Came From". It would take all of 10 minutes to create such a program... and no software in the world would detect it since its server side.
Hidden program in the new WT CD alerts Bethel who has visited apostate websites!!
by moshe 57 Replies latest jw friends
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munchausen
Can it tell how bored I am by their silly CD?
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metatron
You simply get a good Malware program and then remove the cookies, etc.
In addition to that, such an effort would be futile because so many Witnesses are running wild in hypocrisy and viewing porn and visiting apostates and going to dating sites and Lord-knows-what-else.
How do you punish so many? Using a shrinking pool of tired, worn out elders?
metatron
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Anony Mous
@metatron:
How many elders do you think go through non-approved websites? Ever cleaned out an elders computer? You don't get virusses from surfing jw.org, 99% of those with a (recurring) virus problem visit lesser-virtuous websites frequently and not the clean kind either since 'normal' porn sites usually don't have malware.
For the rest, if you're worried, run the WTLIB on a Mac, Linux (Wine) or in another virtual environment, block it from making outside calls. jw.org/watchtower.org logs can be mined (although Safari doesn't pass referrers by default) if you visit them from other websites but again they can't find out who YOU are based on their logs unless they go through a court.
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pbrow
They org only has to place an obscure reference to it in the terms of service and they will be nice and legal. After all, wouldnt the good dubs want to know when "another family member" may stray onto jwfacts.com so they can be assisted with all the lies that are told there?
pbrow
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moshe
It's not much differnet than a NetNanny program- the WT keeps the apostate website IP's up to date and blocks those websites- and alerts "mother" when someone tried to access those websites-
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Billy the Ex-Bethelite
There isn't enough brain power in bethel to get such a job done. They have a hard enough time getting WT-Lib to run on one operating system.
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MeanMrMustard
@moshe:
You wrote:
Now, I'm just theorizing like a Bethel lawyer, but If I wanted to clean out the rotten apples in the KH, I would start with the elders. I would provide all the elders with a special website just for them- tell them all the good stuff will be available to them first- here's your super secret website brother elder, and your username-- then I would scan those computers for our beloved JWN cookie and all apostate website cookies- yes, it would be interesting to see what happens next.
They have a website like that... jw.org.. elders sign in to there. So, You wouldn't need a cookie. Here is what you do:
1) Register a user at JWN.
2) Post on JWN, really stupid things like "marking this thread"... or "Great Job!". In the middle of the post, include a picture that resides on a WT web server somewhere. A really small 1 pixel by 1 pixel white bitmap. Then IP address logging could be turned on, thereby collecting the IP address (and other info the browser is willing to cough up) of anyone trying to grab that picture (which would be whoever is viewing it on JWN).
3) Gather all the distinct IP addresses and compare them to the IP addresses of the elders as they log into JW.org.
This would give them the exact elder username viewing JWN - which would then tie directly to a name. It would be very easy, without any sort of program included in the WT CDROM to find out the identities of the active elders browsing through JWN - or any other apostate website for that matter. In fact, if the WT were clever about it, they would use different picture links for different sites, so that they would know which sites were being viewed...
MeanMrMustard
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TD
Even with a web beacon, there's still deniability. "My neighbor must have been piggybacking on my wireless" etc.
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HintOfLime
MeanMrMustard:
I was going to comment and suggest that exact same thing. If elders are already logging onto a site, it's something they could implement in an afternoon.
To take the system further, they could provide a handy site for something like say.. publishers reporting their monthly time. Registration would require the name and congragation of the publisher. Then, like you say - sprinkle images hosted on a JW site in a posts like this. When they get an IP match, an email is automatically issued to an elder in the local congragation that so-and-so is potentially reading apostate sites on the internet.
Publishers will quickly figure it out, a bethel insider will go on the 7 o'clock news - and two dozen lawsuits later they'll stop sending emails to the local elders (but continue tracking, of course).
- Lime