Let me guess...the dubs have got a scipture for this also, right?
But its okay to celebrate anniversary's and graduations and baby showers?
by Joliette 17 Replies latest jw friends
Let me guess...the dubs have got a scipture for this also, right?
But its okay to celebrate anniversary's and graduations and baby showers?
Joliette-
Didn't you keep your Do's and Don't Book from the Society..... Brooklyn explains All
Let me guess...the dubs have got a scipture for this also, right?
Yep! Eph 6:2. Apparently we should honour our parents every day not just on 2 Sundays of the year when everyone else does. Mothering Sunday is a religious holiday here in the UK and Father's Day was made up by the card companies, so I was told by my family that made it 'Worldly' and 'materialistic'.
I can't grasp why birthdays aren't acceptable because they focus too much on the individual (which all cults hate) but it's okay to celebrate aforementioned events, someone's retirement, or a wedding, which everybody knows is just a thin disguise for celebrating the bride. I mean, every man is dressed the same and every bridesmaid is dressed the same; meanwhile the bride is the only one in a white ball gown.
@mummatron
That's right, in exactly the same way as JW kids get gifts all year long and not just on Christmas and birthdays. Thankfully, I typed that, because I'd have never been able to say it out loud without breaking out in maniacal laughter.
birthdays stem from astrology. Only two birthdays were mentioned in the bible and at both parties someone was beheaded. undue honor that belongs to god, and blah blah blah blah.
I guess the other things are justified because they note achievement---worldly as it may be----and institutions.
Yeah, Yeah, don't say it. I know. LOL
NC
Yeah, its funny how the Bible says not to go "Beyond Scripture". This means, if its NOT in the Bible...its not such a big deal that you have to worry about your Salvation over it.
When it comes to celebrations and traditions...Paul always taught that if it doesn't bother your conscience...fine, but if it stumbles another, makes them feel uncomfortable etc. its best to be a good neighbor and show love by helping that one feel comfortable in your company.
The OOONLY time the JWs follow this is with "alcohol". If there's a cook out or gathering where someone is present and they do not drink (maybe because of past problems), its best to not serve drinks. Perfect example, but that's the ONLY time they follow it.
If you go against your conscience...this is a sin. (from the Bible) That means, if you're fine with it...and it doesn't bother you...make you feel "guilty", it is NOT A SIN!
This is what happens when you celebrate any holiday (Mothers and Fathers Day included):
First, you take a day off. During this time, you are thinking of something other than Jehovah and the organization. Boasting session attendance may be compromised, and you are less likely to waste the whole day out in field circus.
Then, there is the money. You spend something on a holiday, that something could have been "better used to support the ministry". You could have cut way back on work to pio-sneer. You could have used the money to defray a pio-sneer's expenses. Or, you could have put it all into the Worldwide Pedophile Defense Fund. Either way, spending on yourself or a special family member "doesn't support the Kingdom".
Finally, that would create enjoyment. Boasting sessions are boring. Field circus is tedious and boring. But, if you have something else going on, that makes boasting sessions and field circus less appealing. This is most obvious with Christmas and birthdays, but even the second-level holidays like Mothers and Fathers Day could provide a break from being a witless.
The bible makes it clear: Honour they father and thy mother.
If dedicating one day on top of all the other days that we do, to honour them, is NOT following that commandment I don't know what is.
Because the day of their death is more important than the day of your birth?
*** Reasoning from the Scriptures p. 182 Holidays ***
What is the origin of the practice of setting aside a day to honor mothers?The EncyclopædiaBritannica says: “A festival derived from the custom of mother worship in ancient Greece. Formal mother worship, with ceremonies to Cybele, or Rhea, the Great Mother of the Gods, were performed on the Ides of March throughout Asia Minor.”—(1959), Vol. 15, p. 849.(NOTE NO SCRIPTURES HERE)
*** School and JWs p. 21 Holidays and Celebrations ***Mother’sDay: “A festival derived from the custom of mother worship in ancient Greece. Formal mother worship, with ceremonies to Cybele, or Rhea, the Great Mother of the Gods, were performed on the Ides of March throughout Asia Minor.”—EncyclopædiaBritannica (1959), Volume 15, page 849.
*** g74 2/8 p. 28 Are They Harmless Observances? ***But what of Mother’s Day? ‘Surely it does not have roots in ancient paganism,’ someone may say. ‘Does not the Bible command children to “honor their father and mother”?’ Yes, the Bible does command children to honor, obey and respect their parents. (Eph. 6:1, 2) But nowhere does it advocate the commemoration of a special ‘Mother’s Day.’ On the origin of such observance, the EncyclopædiaBritannica (1959 edition) states:
“A festival derived from the custom of mother worship in ancient Greece. Formal mother worship, with ceremonies to Cybele, or Rhea, the Great Mother of the Gods, were performed on the Ides of March throughout Asia Minor.”
Regarding the adoption of Mother’s Day in the United States, the New York Times of May 10, 1953, reported:
“In spite of the popularity of Cybele, . . . and sporadic occasions honoring mothers during the Middle Ages, it was not until 1914 that the proper combination of sentimentality, idealistic promotion and hard business sense impelled the United States Congress to designate the second Sunday in May as Mother’s Day.”
*** g 8/07 p. 28 Godly Training Bears Good Fruit ***Recently, when he was five, Dorian was asked to speak to the entire school—some 500 students—on what he believed about Father’s Day. He prepared a ten-minute talk on the subject “The Responsibilities of a Father,” based on the Bible text at Ephesians 6:4. At the conclusion of the talk, he said, “Instead of celebrating Father’s Day once a year, children should respect and obey their parents every day.