As that blog is very likely NOT an official blog of Commentary Press, I have requested that the links in my first two posts be deleted.
Gentile Times Reconsidered - Download the Book
by VM44 54 Replies latest watchtower bible
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leavingwt
Marvin:
Commentary is sold out of hardcopies but still sells pdf downloads.
Will you please provide me with a URL to where one can purchase GTR in PDF? I do not see it. Thank you.
-LWT
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VM44
If the pdf version of The Gentile Times Reconsidered has never been sold by Commentary Press, then I wonder where did the pdf version come from?
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Lady Lee
Randy at Freeminds has Ray's books for sale - authorized by Ray's widow. I have alerted him to the problem. He may have more inof about the Gentile Times book as well.
And as requested I removed the links
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VM44
Thank you Lady Lee.
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Dogpatch
Actually I only have 2 or 3 of each book left, and I won't be getting any more. Cynthia has decided to put them all up on Amazon.com soon to be done with the work involved. WHEN she will I have no idea. :-))
The download sites mentioned above I am sure are rip-off sites. You can still download some books from Commentarypress.com.
Randy
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AnnOMaly
Out of curiosity I downloaded the book (I already have the real thing so no harm done) and it has also been modified. Additional material (some of COJ's articles from the Christian Freedom site) has been added but made to look as if it is part of the original book (tsk, tsk!). One of the extra chapter titles given on the Contents page is very 'un-Carl': the phrase 'Sham Scholarship' doesn't even appear in the reproduced article (this time by Kristen Jørgensen)! Anyway, COJ's been informed.
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TD
20571pnt428571
Do you bother to read your sources? Let's take Elizabeth Wormeley Latimar, auther of Judea from Cyrus to Titus 537 BC to 70 AD for example. She places the death of Nebuchadnezzar's at 561BC which is 20 years too late for a 607 conquest of Jerusalem.
--When you accept a scholar or historian's conclusions, you also accept the reasoning that got them there. Picking a date you like and ignoring everthing else they had to say on the subject is dishonest.
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AnnOMaly
Update: I've been informed that this GTR pdf has been done by the same guy who made it available on Pirate Bay. In fact, amongst all the copyright info it identifies the culprit -
"Internet edition: Tönis Tönisson, Vretstorp, 2009"
Anyone who has this download ought to treat it with caution. It's already been mentioned that this version has additional material from the Christian Freedom site which has been made to look as if it was part of the original book, but there are also alterations in the body text itself! One example from p. 381:
The original "As I have amply documented in this review, this sectarian agenda forces Furuli to invent incredible explanations of the relevant sources, Biblical as well as extra-Biblical."
Tönisson's interpolation "As I have amply documented in this review, this sectarian agenda forces Furuli to fabulate more wildly than Sheherazade; the legendary Persian queen and storyteller of One Thousand and One Nights."
Outrageous! Some other unauthorized amendments,
P. viii - The map has not been reproduced from the book.
P. 310 - The original " ... it will in the end be impossible for him to find any real and valid support for an idea that is false and therefore basically indefensible" Tönisson " ... it will in the end be impossible for him to find any real and valid support for an idea that is false and therefore impossible to defend.
P. 310 - The original " Unfortunately, this is an area that Couture, at least at the time he wrote the treatise, was not quite familiar with." Tönisson "Unfortunately, this is an area that Couture was not quite familiar with."
P. 370 - The original "The idea is absurd." Tönisson "The idea is patently absurd, asinine."
Who knows what else he's altered in the book? Ripping off a copyrighted book for everyone to download is one thing, but to put in your own little alterations and pass them off as the author's wording ...