The J Dub Culture of Skirt-Wearing

by mummatron 77 Replies latest jw friends

  • mummatron
    mummatron

    This is something that has always bothered me. As a born-in JW I was raised as a little girl wearing skirts and dresses which is clearly quite normal in terms of gender-appropriate clothing. However, the older I grew, the more I realised that ALL JW women and girls wore skirts to meetings and when out in FS, but would wear trousers in their everyday life. I didn't 'get it'. In JW literature, real-World photos of sisters (with the rare exception of sisters in extreme cold climes) always showed them in skirts. Gilead grad photos - sisters in skirts. Missionaries - sisters in skirts. Bethelite sisters - in skirts. I often noticed that female studies would turn up to their first few meetings in a pair of smart trousers and, if they were serious, I'd notice that these interested ones would eventually succumb to the cult 'good associations' peer pressure, and turn up one Sunday morning in a skirt!

    So, why did it bother me so much?

    The older I got, the more awkward I felt in a skirt or dress. By that, I don't mean the kind of awkwardness a transgendered individual might feel about being in the wrong gender's clothing. It was more to do with body confidence as a pre-early teen. I was (and still am actually) long-legged with big feet, so I felt I looked a bit daft. Kind of like Florence from The Magic Roundabout. Skirts always fitted a little shorter on me than they were supposed to be and my big feet in sensible lace-up shoes didn't look particularly genteel and lady-like.

    Again, with growing up I went from the little girls fashion of knee-high/ankle socks or thick cotton tights - which were temperature regulating, soft and comfy - to bare feet & legs, or nylon tights/stockings which would result in sore feet, sticky legs and a heat rash from spending a couple of hours glued to the horrible plastic chairs in the KH. Some of the brothers would complain about wearing a constrictive shirt and tie, but considering I knew what that felt like from wearing compulsory school uniform, I still think they had it made by being able to wear trousers.

    I could never find a concrete scriptural basis for it. Obviously it was OK to wear trousers otherwise I'm sure the FDS would have had something to say about it. They sure had enough to say about short skirts being immodest dress.

    I especially couldn’t see how pro-skirt could be a modesty issue. Our KH had stairs and the main hall was upstairs. If you stood in the right place at the bottom then you’d realise that no skirt or dress would hide your modesty. No wonder so many young brothers volunteered for attendant duty downstairs! Plus we all experienced our fair share of Marilyn Monroe moments whilst out on FS on a blustery day, or a wet skirt on a rainy day clinging to our curves.

    To add further weight to my anti-skirt feelings, when I was 11 years old, I wore a lovely puffy 1950’s style knee-length skirt to book study group, complete with knee-high socks on a warm summer’s eve. The elderly couple whose home hosted the study had huge deep seated leather sofas. I stayed sat down for the duration of the study. When the study finished I found my legs had stuck to the leather. So when I leaned forwards to reach my lemonade from the coffee table and then sat back, my legs stuck to the sofa seat whilst my skirt rode up exposing 2 inches of flesh above my knees. No biggie. Like I said, I had/have long legs so it certainly didn’t look like a mini-skirt. Well, I went home and my mother took me aside and counselled me on how an elderly pioneer brother (a widower if that detail makes a difference..?) in his 70’s had told her he was severely embarrassed by me!!! At the time I felt ashamed and hurt that I’d embarrassed him, but looking back on it and knowing what I know now about how the bOrg treats child molesters it suddenly seems very icky, especially as this brother had a thing about tickling all the young kids at the KH and asking them “Where’s your self-control?!

    Any thoughts on this?

    Mummatron - sat in comfort in a pair of breathable and very modest Nike Dri-fit track pants, cotton ankle socks and Reebok trainers.

  • White Dove
    White Dove

    I hate dresses and skirts on me. They are okay on others, though. I just refuse to wear them.

    If I was going back to the hall, there would be no way in HELL that I'd EVER wear a dress/skirt, again.

    No way would I wear anything at all that would be uncomfortable.

    I'd wear what I wanted to wear (occasion appropriate, of course) and figure that God loved me anyway.

    I have a hard time believing that God would destroy women for wearing pants to meetings.

    Yes, that old man sounded just like he might have been a child molester, at heart at least.

    --Dovey, of the I don't believe in the God of the Bible or any other holy book class

  • EmptyInside
    EmptyInside

    Well,personally,it doesn't bother me about having to wear skirt/dresses,because I kind of like wearing skirts. It's just my style. Although,I never entirely fit in with the Witness style,since I'm a beatnik at heart. So,I probably would be wearing long skirts anyway.

    Ever since I was young I preferred dresses over pants,but that's just me. But,I do believe the organization does go overboard when setting up a dress code. For example,the white shirt policy for brothers having parts at Assemblies and Conventions,and even some congregations had this rule. I'm not sure if it is still in effect though.

    But,I understand why some would have a problem with the skirts only rule for women. It does appear they just want women to know their place,such as,with the head covering.

  • White Dove
    White Dove

    Oh, hippy wear?

    HECK YEAH!

    I used to wear those cool long flowy skirts in college and to the meetings.

    Wore peasant blouses with beads, long hair, the works!

    Loved it!

    Now, I'd dress like a tomboy hippy.

    My days of skirt wearing are over.

    (goes to closet to dump old skirts)

  • EmptyInside
    EmptyInside

    And the skirt better not be made of denim,lol. But,some sisters still wear denim skirts. I don't see anything wrong with it. Most are dark denim and are more dressy.

  • EmptyInside
    EmptyInside

    White Dove,that is how I sort of dress now,long skirts,peasant tops and long beaded necklaces.

  • White Dove
    White Dove

    I don't see what problem they had with blue coarse fabric.

    Geez, controling fabrics.

  • talesin
    talesin

    I think it's about separating the sexes ---- women wear dresses -- like Emptyinside said, similar to head coverings.

    It is symbolic of the women's role in the congregation, which is one of submission. Wearing skirts, while constantly being on a 'modesty watch', can be very uncomfortable. It's harder to get in and out of the backseats of cars, can't run from dogs very fast in FS, as well as things previously mentioned.

    Since I left the KH, I dress business-appropriate, and on my own time - well, it just depends on how I feel that day! Mostly I'm just an old hippy chick, then when I get dressed up with makeup, etc... sometimes even my friends don't recognize me! LOL, JWs are very shiny! And we prolly all know how to put on that look when we want to.

    I do miss 'sharp dressed brothers I grew up with'.

    t

    *dresses to please herself* klass

  • mummatron
    mummatron

    Oh yeah, can't say I ever saw a sister in a denim skirt. There were a couple that wore denim jackets instead of a coat though.

    I do wear the occasional skirt or dress but it's a rare occurence nowadays. In my working career I've nearly always worn trouser suits.

  • MrFreeze
    MrFreeze

    That begs the question ladies, which do you prefer to wear, pencil or flowy skirts? Are those the right terms.

    talesin, I still dress sharp ;)

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