I wonder what the witlesses would do if I called on them that I am one of Satan's Witnesses, and called back on them every few months despite that they are not interested.
JW's are so hot on their views being respected but they do not respect anyone elses!
by highdose 27 Replies latest jw experiences
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keyser soze
Using a baseball bat is so barbaric, outlaw. A golf club is far more sophisticated.
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darthfader
Since they consider everyone not among them as being part of "satan's wicked system of things"... then how could we even expect anything different from them?
How about just a little satan? Maybe a small piece fo evil? Maybe some materialism for good measure? Oh how that vomit looks so.... tasty!!With "programming" like that, I can see why they behave as they do.
So unfortunate :(
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WontLeave
Well, last time I went to a meeting, it was a Hall I'd never attended before. I sat close to the front. Every time one of the JW retards would read their answer directly out of the magazine, I held the magazine up in front of my face and did a typewriter motion, complete with carriage returns at the ends of the lines. Every time someone said something stupid, I snickered and looked around incredulously, obviously to see what idiot said something so moronic. I had a blast. It was the best meeting I'd been to in a while.
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Quendi
I think it is important to retain some perspective here. I can't speak for the law elsewhere, but in the United States, Jehovah's Witnesses have the right to call uninvited at people's homes and places of business. This is a right guaranteed by the First Amendment to the American Constitution. It seems to me that some of us have forgotten this. That same First Amendment also guarantees the right of householders and business owners to refuse to listen to these callers as well as to request that they not be called upon again. How difficult is that to do?
I was one of those Witnesses who always respected "No Jehovah's Witnesses", "No Trespassing" and "No Soliciting" signs posted on people's property. I felt that I could always take note of the address and write a letter to the householder if I really wanted to contact him or her. That was far less intrusive, and was a way of genuinely respecting the person's demand for privacy. I'm aware that many Witnesses have no idea how to handle these demands in written form. They have been trained to go to the door anyway because the work they are involved in is a "life-saving" one. And many Witnesses I worked with were moved by genuine concern for their neighbors.
For those of us who have left the organization and have no intention of returning, we want to remember the mindset we had when we were zealous members. If we do that, we won't be so quick to condemn those who call upon us. It costs nothing to politely and firmly let these callers know that we are no longer interested in the message and request that our addresses be placed upon the "Do Not Call" list that every congregation maintains.
Do Jehovah's Witnesses abuse their First Amendment rights? I don't doubt that some do. There are those who won't take "No" for an answer and leave when they hear it. They can be intrusive, rude, annoying, and persistent to the last degree. That doesn't mean that we should be the same. There are others who actually love the field service (I was one of those) and make every effort to share the "good news" with everyone they meet in the door-to-door work.
One last thing to remember is the fact that Jehovah's Witnesses have fought for and strengthened the cause of civil liberties in many countries due to their work. And while it is sad that they don't practice what they preach in this regard inside the organization, many of us have benefited from their dogged persistence in exercising their rights to free speech and keeping government out of the practice of religion. It seems to me that tolerating the relatively minor nuisance of their calling on our homes is a very small price to pay for keeping our civil rights.
Quendi
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cherrypye
Quendi, I agree with that you're saying in theory. Unfortunately, Jdubs do not feel that way about other's beliefs.
Our local Christian churches decided to arrange a door-to-door preaching campaign, which my very JW mother criticized from the mountain tops. Freedom of religion needs to go both ways, and unfortunately it only goes one way with JWs.
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LongHairGal
Quendi:
I understand your view that our civil rights should be protected and that it is really no big deal to tolerate the minor nuisance of JWs calling. However, in all honesty, I think you and I were in the minority as far as respecting the No Trespassing, No Soliciting signs encountered in field service.
I am of the general opinion (because I have personally witnessed it) that many JWs are not in the least concerned about these signs and routinely ignore them. I had to physically pull a very determined sister from going on property that had a No Trespassing sign prominently posted. She said: "It's no big deal". Yes, this is their mentality. I was with others who were so busy gossiping to their partner that they did not see the signs and ticked off some householder.
The impression I got, loud and clear, was that many people in the religion somehow felt that they were immune to the laws of the land (or the angels were going to save them) and only gave the laws lip-service and somehow considered the religion a superior authority (as though armageddon happened and they were the only ones left standing).
Anyway, this is the impression I got while I was in the religion.
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nugget
A friend of mine asked what to say to witnesses so they don't come back. Her priest had told her to say she believed in the trinity. Unsurprisingly it didn't work. I just said the next time they call say I wish to be a do not call, I do not need to be reviewed once a year, I do not want to be called on again. If they try to question it you say this is not up for discussion this is my view I ask you accept it.
Perhaps this is the message we need to get out there that people have the option to stop the calls.
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WontLeave
@nugget
Tell her to accept a Bible study, but refuse to accept literature or use it in the study. They can't count the study, because it's not using a JW book and they can't count any placements, so they'll bail on it. They don't want to study the Bible, because they're not qualified and they don't care about the Bible. They want numbers; more importantly, JW-approved numbers. I've accepted 3 Bible studies so far and nobody has started 1 with me, yet. I see them in my neighoborhood and they skip my house. I thought maybe they found out I am a JW, so I tracked one down I recognized - feigning coincidence - and struck up a conversation. They assured me they had intended to stop by while they were in the area. That was a few weeks ago and nothing.