MY SPIRITUAL JOURNEY- From Watchtower – Christianity - Agnosticism

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  • JustHuman14
    JustHuman14

    My Personal Spiritual Journey- From Watchtower - Christianity - Agnosticism

    I guess life is a journey and this journey becomes more exited when someone is willing to take that journey. One of our Greek poets wrote: "It is not the destination, but the journey that matters"...

    My story is very similar like many thousands of ex-JW's around the globe. I was born in the "truth" in the late 60's, my dad was a Circuit Overseer, and from the day I came into this world all ever known was the Watchtower world. My everyday activities were focused on Organization activities any thing else was considered a sin, or useless, since the end was just around the corner and the most important thing was to save human lives. So I was escorting my dad since childhood to all WT's activities, field service, meetings, visiting other congregations. I grew up with the fear of Armageddon that will destroy this world, and my handful worldly friends I had from school. Since I was the only JW at school you can imagine how destructive was for me, watching your friends celebrating Christmas, birthdays, Easter (Passover) Holidays, plus I was kind of an alien amongst the children, especially when we had our morning prayer. It was the 70's and everyone in the WT was carried way by the frenzy of the end in 1975 and although I was only 7, I still feel the spirit of those days. Well 1975 pass and nothing happened and we have entered the 80's, with another warning by the WT that the "generation" that saw Jesus Christ invisible presence will not pass away and the end will come...So been a teenager in the mid 80's all I ever knew and listen it was that the "end" is close and we the young ones should spend our time in a lifesaving preaching work instead of seeking a carrier in this "Titanic" that soon will sunk. So I left school to become a pioneer to save the world. So the 80's and early 90's passed. Mean while I got married and had 2 kids. So it was 1995 when WT came with a "new light". My first doubts came across, but being a Ministerial Servant and Pioneer I suppress my negative thoughts by doing more in Jehovah's Organization. I did this until the dawn of the new millennium when I came across with very old publications of the WT that my father had in his library. I had all Rutherford's books and some from Russell. I read them ALL...Well that was the end of my world in WT, since I realize that WT never got a single prophecy in their short history of 140 years, but most of all I was astonished by the arrogance of Judge Jo. It seems he was a person with psychological problems, something you could easily see from his writings.

    Another blow on the credibility of the WT occurred when I had the chance to do my own job (something to do with the media)but the elders of the WT opposed to my idea, threatening that they will take away all of my privileges. On the other hand I could see wealthy JW's (and we had a lot) making business, earning millions, enjoying elderly positions. It was clearly double standards by the WT in my case. Then I looked at the internet, found great web pages that confirmed my fears: WT is nothing more than a multimillion dollar company that is using the need of humans to worship God. Since I had a family I continued to attend JW meetings but I stepped down from all of my privileges, since I could no longer support WT. I started the process of fading and I quit meetings. But this wasn't enough for my faithful wife, so after a lot of pressure I said that I don't believe that WT has to do anything with God or so ever. Well she turned me to the elders!!! Mean while I continued my spiritual journey and I have looked many religions and I ended up following a mainstream Christian Church. So I got way from the judicial committee since I told the "elders" what they wanted to hear, but I guess that wasn't enough, since I had to prove my "loyalty" to the WT Society, so after the "appropriate" time of my lined up with the party ended, my wife turned me for a second time to the "loving elders" of the WT Society. I have already decided that I no longer wish to be part of WT, so I wrote a letter to them asking answers for 3 major questions. Well the questions are the ones that you cannot ask WT, so they didn't answer any of them, instead I was labeled as an apostate...

    This was the end of my marriage, since there was no way after that to have a peaceful house, due to WT's policy for disfellowshiped persons. But my journey didn't end here. I continue to read and search, since I love reading, then I came up with some notes I wrote few years back regarding some disturbing facts in the Old Testament. I combined this notes with some archeological facts of the Mesopotamian region and the Hebrew nation. The outcome was the following:

    1. Noah's Flood was just a replica of an older Sumerian myth the Epic of Gilgamesh. In fact there is no scientific evidence that such event ever took place.
    2. The contradictions found in the Old Testament, which are many and one example is the "story" of Cain and Abel. Why God likes animal sacrifices instead of fruits and vegetables? If Cain was cursed to hang around in the land, then how come did he build a city? And how many people it takes to build a city? Why would a God of love who hates human sacrifices demands from Abraham to sacrifice his only son? How come Lot had sex with his own daughters? How come few years after the flood human kind got multiplied so much that they decided to build a city?
    3. There is not single archeological evidence either from the Egyptian writings or any other ancient civilization that the Israelites stayed prisoners in Egypt for 400 years and the most ridiculous part is that 70 people in just 400 years managed to become a mighty nation of 3 millions!!! The only reference we had is of Ahomose an Egyptian King that sends out from Egypt a group of thieves, smugglers and bandits called Hyksos because they created much trouble to the Egyptian Empire. So maybe this is the only reference we got for the Israelites and their "great exodus". So being humiliated they created the myth of their Exodus, even they use the name of the Egyptian King Ahomose with a slight change and they present it as their savior - Moses!!! Most of the cities that they occupied have been long before desolated, and the strangest is that how come 3 million people hang around in the desert for 40 years without any archeological evidence.
    4. Most of all is the misogynist attitude of the nomad writers of the Old Testament. Women are treated like a low form of life, a belonging and not a human creature. If you rape a virgin then you have to pay to her father a certain amount of money and then you can marry her!!! If a woman doesn't scream in a rape attempt she is guilty of prostitution and she must stone to death!!! So women are just a trade item for those Semitic nomads. Not to mention the supposed genocides that Israelites did by the commands of Jah, the killing of innocent babies because they were males, but they spare the life of female virgins in some cases. Is this God of love? Or how come a God of love forbids anyone who is handicap to enter the Temple, because He considers that they will defile Him by entering? The questions are so many that you can write a book regarding Old Testament absurdness.

    Then there also some issues in the New Testament: How come in the Early Christian Church, along with the traditional Gospels that circulate at that time, we had some other Gospels like the Gospel of Mary Magdalene, the Gospel Of Judas, the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Joseph, just to name a few, and those Gospels are rejected by the Church Fathers!!! For instance the Gospel of Magdalene shows that she was equal amongst the rest of the disciples and there was turmoil between them and her, since Jesus gave a special role in the Church, something that they couldn't accept: A woman with Priesthood position...

    Again there is a huge difference from the God of Wrath and Jealousy in the Old Testament (you will not worship other God, and if you dare I'll kill you), and with the teachings of Jesus. Jesus preached the universal law of Love, he preached about forgiveness, caring the sick and the old, but most of all that Love conquers all things. He was associated with all those that considered by the Mosaic Law as worth of killing them, prostitutes, tax collectors, Gentiles. It seems that Jesus came from another world and not from the angry God of the Hebrews. Perhaps he was just a person that came to bring a different message to mankind, but no matter what, I still keep his message.

    In this journey I'm convinced that, life on this planet came through an evolution process. This is a fact, but still I cannot accept that we are just a coincidence. It is just like having a scrap yard with scattered parts of computer hard disks, hard drives, screens, wires, mother boards, power supply, software programs, and suddenly a tornado passes by and a super computer is being created...I do believe in a Creator of this universe, but I don't believe that any religion on this planet can claim that they represent this Creator. I feel that religion instead of bringing people together it divides them, creating more trouble. The point is the major 3 religions of this word, Judaism, Christianity and Islam, their foundation is based upon FAIRY TALES from some old misogynist nomads invented, in order to keep people suppressed. Religion instead of freeing people it enslaves them. Unfortunately no one has the courage to look deep and examine the roots of those 3 religions that cause and causing so much harm in this world. It is matter of personal choice to examine if your religion is best upon facts or is just a myth, once this is done then the real awaking takes process. Instead of spending our time fighting and debating with each other who is wrong or who is right, we could use that afford to create a better world of understanding.

    I guess John Lennon was so right when he said:

    Imagine there's no heaven
    It's easy if you try
    No hell below us
    Above us only sky

    Imagine there's no countries
    It isn't hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too

  • wobble
    wobble

    Thanks for posting JH14, great to hear you are doing O.K, you seem to have got to a place of peace, where you may not know the answers to everything, but the answers you do have fit the evidence, make sense.

    It is great too, is it not, to be able to ask the forbidden questions ?

    Your story is similar to many on here I guess, my own for example. I was born in to a slightly different organization to you, I was born in to the WT/JW Org/religion in 1950, by 68 it had changed somewhat.

    I started my spiritual journey around early 2007, a year before I finally walked away, but I had been reversing out slowly for decades without realising it.

    I never swallowed the total wacky crap like bible prophecy being fulfilled in the little group of Rutherfordites in the 1920's, and did not share many of the views and practices, I hated the shunning of DF'd persons for instance.

    I am now a Humanist/Rationalist.I only put my trust in things that I can prove in a scientific or sensible manner. I do not "believe"in anything, using "belief" in the sense of trusting in something with no proof, why should I ?

    I feel that I have not got my life back, I never had a life in the W.T, not areal one, but I feel I have been given a life, one that is happy and fulfilled, mainly by helping my fellow man in any way I can.

    Do I detect a hint , a wisp, of sadness in your tone? It is natural to feel regret, you have lost a wife, "friends" and had to walk away from the only life you knew, that takes courage and integrity.

    Look forward to your great future, it will be what you want it to be, so be happy, have fun and above all, keep us posted !

  • clarity
    clarity

    JustHuman, thank you for your post.

    I've thought about Lennon's words many times ... and do imagine what that would be like.

    Sorry about your family ... such an ugly "religion"!!

    clarity

  • LongHairGal
    LongHairGal

    JustHuman14:

    I came to a lot of the same conclusions that you did although I didn't start out the way you did. I was not a born-in but came in when I was in my 20s. I am a "fader" and an agnostic now.

    I feel religion was invented to control the masses (who were in the beginning, savages). I was always of the impression that religions were competing with the monarchies of the world with their 'hierarchies' and titles.

    In our modern time, religions are little fiefdoms headed by people who want an easy life and somebody supporting them. I have no use for religion and consider them parasites.

  • tec
    tec

    It sounds as if you have found some peace. That your search has been honest, and in truth, I feel the same as you do about a lot of things. I don't believe any religion can claim to represent our Creator, either. I believe that task is left to Christ. All those things you listed about Christ, those are true of His Father, the Creator, as well. Look at Christ, look at God. None of the other stuff takes precedence over that. And all the bickering that goes on, as you say, is time that could be better spent living the teachings of Christ.

    Peace to you on your journey,

    Tammy

  • elder-schmelder
    elder-schmelder

    I wish that I could write as well as you. My spiritual journey is almost the same. Thank you for writing this.

    elder-schmelder

  • sizemik
    sizemik

    JustHuman14 . . . thanks for taking the time to post your "journey" thus far. In a physical sense our journey's are quite different (excepting the WT experience) . . . but in a philosophical sense very similar.

    I recall arriving at many of the same conclusions. Like you, I still find merit in the principles found in the teachings of Christ . . . but I am not affiliated with any Religious organisation or set of beliefs. I've found over time it becomes less uncomfortable living with the "unknown". It is preferable to make this allowance rather than seek comfort from what is essentially . . . a guess.

    Religion, as distinct from a healthy set of life principles, has accomplished little of substance, and resulted in a lot of misery for many. If there is intelligence behind the physical world, then that intelligence still lies largely in obscurity. If there is a reason for that then maybe one day I will get to know it. In the meantime, I doubt that this intelligence would expect me to live my life on a gamble. Rather, I would expect merit would lie in simply living in harmony with the leadings of the inner man . . . and that is where I find a greater sense of meaning . . . rather than in anything external.

    I can understand better now those who have said to me over the years that religion to them is a personal matter. It's not that they don't wish to share . . . it simply means each must find his own path. We can only learn so much from one another . . . the rest must come from ourselves.

  • Witness My Fury
    Witness My Fury

    I think your conclusions are entirely logical based on any reasonable level of open minded research, ... I read the bible several times in the last 3 years during my research phase regarding JWs, and I came to similar feelings and doubts about the bible and "The Truth".

    Thanks for posting.

  • designs
    designs

    JustHuman-

    I think a lot of us have traveled a very similar road. I needed religion or at least Bible based groups for awhile after leaving the Witnesses. I would challenge one of your observations where you say the God of the Old Testament demanded exclusive worship and Jesus was different. That is not true based on the things Jesus said about himself being the 'only' way and truth, my take was there really is no difference between the two figures. And this connection was ultimately part of my process to walk away from the teachings of Jesus even if they have a few nice parts to them.

    All the best

  • trevorbv
    trevorbv

    Beautiful post. There is much I can relate to.

    Best wishes

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