The art of being "Self referential" JW style....

by stuckinarut2 10 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • stuckinarut2
    stuckinarut2

    Have you noticed how everything from the GB or witnesses in general is "self referential"?

    By this I mean that they adopt the method of using their own quotes, facts, statistics, teachings, events etc....to "PROVE" the new points made!

    So for example, a teaching point or doctrinal reference is brought out, and in order to "prove" it, the GB will use their own self referential past points to back it up!

    Circular reasoning at its best!

    "Its a fact, because as we stated previously, it's a fact......."

  • sparrowdown
    sparrowdown

    Yeah, they sure do, although, they don't mind shamelessly pilfering quotes from outside sources and using them out of context either.

  • DATA-DOG
    DATA-DOG

    What, don't you understand my interpretation?! Allow me to quote.......myself!!!

    DD

  • sparrowdown
    sparrowdown
    "Self-referential" or masterbatory.
  • The Searcher
    The Searcher

    99.99% of Witnesses are totally oblivious of the fact that the reversal of a major JW teaching - "the evil slave is hypothetical and doesn't exist!" - was provided by one of Christendom's scholars, via the NET Bible's footnote of Matthew 24:48!!

    "Food at the proper time", courtesy of Babylon the Great! :)

    Waken up fellow Witnesses. Stop being spoon-fed and do some personal study!

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange

    Waken up fellow Witnesses. Stop being spoon-fed and do some personal study!

    They are too busy going out for burgers and beer.

    Doc

  • Oubliette
    Oubliette

    Yes, I noticed that many years ago. Nearly every teaching is "backed up" by quoting another WT publication. This gives the illusion of scholarship. But that's all it is.

    When I first began to notice this, I thought, "Well, I'll have to read that article to see what IT used for evidence/proof/etc."

    Of course, I often didn't, but many times I did. It wasn't long before I started to see a pattern, there is a dearth of independent material to verify almost all JW doctrines and practices. The are mostly derived in-house and simply asserted without any independently verifiable backing.

    Look at the relatively recent "overlapping generation" nonsense. The "proof" is the use of the word "evidently" in the sentence introducing the teaching, asserting that the WT writers--and they alone--KNOW what Jesus meant when he prophesied:

    "He evidently meant that the lives of the anointed who were on hand when the sign began to become evident in 1914 would overlap with the lives of other anointed ones who would see the start of the great tribulation." Watchtower 2010 April 15 p.10

    That's it. No REAL evidence.

    Let's review: It's a cult!


  • Half banana
    Half banana
    Ah but you gotta remember they are demi-gods now, self appointed no less... so demi-gods can quote themselves...
  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    "This must be right, because we said it was before. "

    to the average JW that makes all kinds of sense.

  • campaign of hate
    campaign of hate

    Yeah, it always confuses me when they quote themselves to back up a point.

    It's like saying. "This book was written 200 years ago. We can see evidence of this from the W89 2/15 article which says about this very same book. "It was indeed written 200 years ago". So we can clearly see, without a doubt, this book was written 200 years ago".

    Quite funny actually.

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