Canopy around Earth before flood ?

Rummy1

I'm sure I didn't dream this but as a jw child I seem to recall
this explanation for the flood:
Before the flood it didn't rain;there was a huge canopy of water
around the Earth which helped protect it and stabilised the temperature so there wern't extremes like now.
Plants etc grew with the help of early morning dew(!)
When the flood occurred Jehovah burst the canopy and tons of water
came down as rain thus flooding the entire Earth.
Ever since then we've had rain and the natural balance of Earth's weather was disrupted.
After Armageddon Jehovah will restore the canopy,and everything will be honkydoory again!
Anyone buy this ??

seedy3

Actually newbie............ not in a heartbeat. In the polar caps they have found snow and ice to be dated much, much farther back then the flood story tells us. If we had such great weather before the flood, without extreams, How is it the ice caps are as old as they are. I forget what age they have drilled down to, but it is very very old. This is not using carbon dating BTW, it is using layer dating, so I don't any one talking about how inaccurate carbon dating is.

Seedy

Flip

Before the flood it didn't rain;there was a huge canopy of water...Anyone buy this ??

Rummy' For myself, it wasn't so much believing in the concept but of trying to ignore it and making damn sure one didn't dispute the logic in public.

Flip

LB

Yes I remember that canopy story. More JW lousy science.

Never Squat With Yer Spurs On

ashitaka

It was actually a canopy of talking rainbow skittles.

ashi

DakotaRed

I don't know if I would really call it junk science, but neither would I call it a fact. All I can find is a theory advanced by some. This theory is refuted by modern known laws of physics. But, to creationists, there are no known laws governing God.

Personally, I don't know if there was or not. The Watchtower should not teach this theory as fact, though. I see it as another argument to distract us from loving each other. Amazing how many teachings from so many religions actually cause division amongst man instead of bringing man together.

Here is an article discussing the theory and also refuting it.

http://www.sentex.net/~tcc/fcanopy.html

If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?

iggy

Do you think that maybe when they drill to the bottom of the antarctic that they will know how long it has been snowing there?
Is it possible that before that time it may have been warmer there?
Iggy

VM44

Isaac Newton Vail wrote some books and pamphlets about
the canopy theory as the source of the waters of the Great
Flood. He published several books and pamphlets describing
his "Earth's Annular Ring" idea, and even published a
magazine called "Annular World".

While Vail may not have been the first to use the Flood myths
of various cultures to prove the existence of a world covering
flood, he probably was the first to use the myths to try and
prove that the Earth was covered by a ring of water.

The Watchtower endorsed Vail's ideas for decades, Rutherford
even wrote that "It seems to have been the plan of Jehovah
God to begin the increase of light upon his great work for
the benifit of man about the year 1874 A.D. It was in that year that
Isaac N. Vail first publihsed a pamphlet entitled 'The Earth's
Annular System'." (page 29, Creation 1927) Rutherford then devotes
about 6 or 7 pages to Vail's Annular theory, even including a
diagram of the earth and it's annular system.

I believe that Vail's ideas even appear in the Watchtower book,
"Paradise" book published in 1959, although Vail is not mentioned
by name in the book.

The Vailian theory was never considered by mainstream science, as
it violated basic laws of orbital mechanics. It appears that
any such cloud canopy containing enough vapor required by the Flood would result in an earth temperature too high to support life.
(Temperate climate indeed!)

After teaching the Vail like ideas about 100 years, all the WT
now says is that "it is best not to speculate." But the WT still
uses cultural Flood myths as an "anthropological" proof for the
Great Flood.

A good web article about the Vailian canopy theory is:

"The Demise and Fall of the Water Vapor Canopy: A Fallen Creationist Idea" by Glenn R. Morton

which may be found at:

[ http://www.glenn.morton.btinternet.co.uk/canopy.htm]

--VM44

Rummy1

Speaking about the flood again,I assume that in Noah's day
only a small part of the Earth was actually populated.
So why was the ENTIRE Earth flooded ?-not just the area that
was populated? If the cellar was full of rats you wouldn't
destroy the entire house would you ?

DakotaRed

Just accept things as taught, Rummy. Don't question Mother! When the time is right, God will give you another magazine article to "brighten your mind." LOL

Sound familiar?

If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time?

Canopy around Earth before flood ?

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