talk to me sizemik, what's your take on all this?
"Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over."
by Mr. Falcon 48 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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PSacramento
The whole passage:
Concerning an Unfaithful Wife
11 The Lord spoke to Moses, saying: 12 Speak to the Israelites and say to them: If any man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him, 13 if a man has had intercourse with her but it is hidden from her husband, so that she is undetected though she has defiled herself, and there is no witness against her since she was not caught in the act; 14 if a spirit of jealousy comes on him, and he is jealous of his wife who has defiled herself; or if a spirit of jealousy comes on him, and he is jealous of his wife, though she has not defiled herself; 15 then the man shall bring his wife to the priest. And he shall bring the offering required for her, one-tenth of an ephah of barley flour. He shall pour no oil on it and put no frankincense on it, for it is a grain offering of jealousy, a grain offering of remembrance, bringing iniquity to remembrance.
16 Then the priest shall bring her near, and set her before the Lord ; 17 the priest shall take holy water in an earthen vessel, and take some of the dust that is on the floor of the tabernacle and put it into the water. 18 The priest shall set the woman before the Lord , dishevel the woman’s hair, and place in her hands the grain offering of remembrance, which is the grain offering of jealousy. In his own hand the priest shall have the water of bitterness that brings the curse. 19 Then the priest shall make her take an oath, saying, “If no man has lain with you, if you have not turned aside to uncleanness while under your husband’s authority, be immune to this water of bitterness that brings the curse. 20 But if you have gone astray while under your husband’s authority, if you have defiled yourself and some man other than your husband has had intercourse with you,” 21 —let the priest make the woman take the oath of the curse and say to the woman—“the Lord make you an execration and an oath among your people, when the Lord makes your uterus drop, your womb discharge; 22 now may this water that brings the curse enter your bowels and make your womb discharge, your uterus drop!” And the woman shall say, “Amen. Amen.”
23 Then the priest shall put these curses in writing, and wash them off into the water of bitterness. 24 He shall make the woman drink the water of bitterness that brings the curse, and the water that brings the curse shall enter her and cause bitter pain. 25 The priest shall take the grain offering of jealousy out of the woman’s hand, and shall elevate the grain offering before the Lord and bring it to the altar; 26 and the priest shall take a handful of the grain offering, as its memorial portion, and turn it into smoke on the altar, and afterward shall make the woman drink the water. 27 When he has made her drink the water, then, if she has defiled herself and has been unfaithful to her husband, the water that brings the curse shall enter into her and cause bitter pain, and her womb shall discharge, her uterus drop, and the woman shall become an execration among her people. 28 But if the woman has not defiled herself and is clean, then she shall be immune and be able to conceive children.
29 This is the law in cases of jealousy, when a wife, while under her husband’s authority, goes astray and defiles herself, 30 or when a spirit of jealousy comes on a man and he is jealous of his wife; then he shall set the woman before the Lord , and the priest shall apply this entire law to her. 31 The man shall be free from iniquity, but the woman shall bear her iniquity.
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the-illuminator81
J. Hofer: Typical JW behavior! They even deny the bible.. watch what happens when you show them it is actually in it, suddenly they will start defending it.
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PSacramento
This is a case of oen of those tried and true methods knwo to ancient man that I liek to call " The consious revealer".
In a supersistious community that saw God kick the ass of many with plagues, fire and serious surfing skills, a person who WAS guilty of being unfaitful and was brought for judgment and told what woudl happen if they are found guilt, would be initimidated to the point that IF they were guilt and if their consious was 'eating away at them", they would indeed "show" the signs of guilt as above.
Sort of a suggestive guilt test.
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Mr. Falcon
In a supersistious community that saw God kick the ass of many with plagues, fire and serious surfing skills, a person who WAS guilty of being unfaitful and was brought for judgment and told what woudl happen if they are found guilt, would be initimidated to the point that IF they were guilt and if their consious was 'eating away at them", they would indeed "show" the signs of guilt as above.
Isn't this how Stalin's secret police worked?
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palmtree67
That passage was one that always bothered me.
I mean, what if a woman was married to a jealous ass and he was wanting her to take this damn test every week??
And where is the test for an unfaithful husband??
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PSacramento
Stalin's secret police may have used similar methods, as we even now use those methods in courts of law and interrogations.
Hey, if it works....LOL !
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SweetBabyCheezits
Jhofer: .... the "what does the book 'what does the bible really teach' really teach" book..
Jhofer, are you originator this fine bit of satire? I heart it! Virtual high five.
MF: I always tell my children that they have a chloroform-soaked rag and a bored, complacent mother to thank for their existence.
MF, I've got $2... no... $3.18 that says that's what Emerson had in mind when he wrote we do what we must, and call it by the best names.
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Mr. Falcon
Yeah this is FUBAR. Don't worry, I wouldn't let them try this on you.
Nobody puts Palm in the corner!
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leavingwt
During my first year at Bethel, I was required to read the entire Bible. Prior to this, I had not done so.
I can assure you that there are many more strange verses. I recall some STRANGE stuff in Isaiah.