Stop CONFUTING Physics with METAphysics Watchtower !

by Terry 19 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Terry
    Terry

    Descartes uttered the famous dictum: I think therefore I AM.

    Thinking, however, is metaphysical and existing is physical.

    Now STOP right there!

    Let us define our words, shall we?

    Physics deals with our sensory proofs of ACTUAL things (Hearing, Seeing, Smelling, Touching, Tasting)

    (Don't run screaming from the room yet----it gets better!)

    Metaphysics deals with our ideas, notions, intutions, concepts about UNprovable (by the senses, anyway) things.

    DON'T GO ANY FURTHER if you don't agree and have that clear.

    If you don't experiment with data and try to disprove your conclusions you aren't doing Science.

    Metaphysical reality is not THE reality.

    The Watchtower does't get that, apparently.

    From Pastor Russell until now there has been a confusion of Metaphysics and actual Physics!

    Example: Jesus returns "and every eye shall see him." How did the Watchtower explain 1914?

    INVISIBLE JESUS! (The "eye" of special knowledge allowed True Believers to "see" the arrival of the new King!)

    They confuted actual world events (World War) with metaphysical "events": invisible 2nd coming!

    The actual war didn't mean what everybody fighting it thought it meant; IT MEANT what the Watchtower metaphysically said it meant.

    STOP!

    Did you know those ancient Greek philosophers REFUSED to perform experiments? They thought it was beneath them! It was cheating! You were supposed to work out difficult problems IN YOUR MIND.

    Aristotle reasoned that a heavy rock falls faster from a great height than a smaller and lighter rock. Almost 2,000 years went by before Galileo performed THE ACTUAL EXPERIMENT! Guess what, instantly the smartest man in history (Aristotle) was refuted!

    STOP!

    Yes, Stop the Watchtower by PERFORMING THE EXPERIMENT!

    The testing of arguments is what science does best. The result is FACT.

    However--Science can only test DEMONSTRATIONS of actual things and NOT metaphysical things.

    The Governing Body has found the perfect dodge to escape into the Metaphysical whenever they are refuted in the physical!

    MIXING chalk and cheese, as the Brits would say.

    How do we prove Santa Claus "exists"?

    We point to the wonderful happiness of the children at Christmas time! Their innocent belief has a positive impact on the physical.

    However, this is a metaphysical argument! It is not FACT or PROOF. It is "fact" and "proof."

    All of the Watchtower "proofs" are metaphysical arguments that do not deal with physical testable reality. They are interpretive "impact statements"

    on the physical. Bait and Switch!

    Getting believers to stand in a hospital room and allow their child to die rather than accept a life-saving blood transfusion, for example.

    Where is the focus? Is it on the innocent child's tragic and unnecessary loss of life? NO! That is physical fact refuting belief.

    Instead, the focus is on the profound FAITHFULNESS and TRUST in Jehovah's PROMISE of EVERLASTING LIFE!

    A false balance is constructed in which we are supposed to Metaphysically perform an "experiment" in our mind!

    On one side of the scale we weigh the natural lifespan of a child who violates God's taboos on blood and on the other side EVERLASTING LIFE in paradise! See which one wins THAT metaphysical demonstration??

    The Watchtower

    CONFUTE Physics with Metaphysics and get away with it.

    Where are the Galileo's of the world who dare to demonstrate that the impeccable Aristotle is wrong??!!

    The year Galileo died was the year Isaac Newton was born, 1642. Newton mathematically described why the heavy stone and the light stone fall at the same rate of speed. The birth of modern science (expermentation) was testing the reality with reality.

    We must demand of Watchtower Society that they stop mixing metaphysics with physics.

    Call them out on it.

    Point out that END TIMES is a metaphysical interpretation of physical events. The "End" is always a WRONG and implausible opinion because new events come along and newer ones still ALL FITTING the "signs".

    Scripture is a METAPHYSICAL map of our imaginary universe in which we PHYSCIALLY dwell.

    STOP and think about how confusing that can be to your mind!

    Is Jesus ruling invisibly since 1914? Did Armageddon come in 1975?

    Stop confusting Physics with Metaphysics and you'll realize how simple the answers are.

    Galileo is perhaps the first to clearly state that the laws of nature are mathematical. In The Assayer he wrote "Philosophy is written in this grand book, the universe ... It is written in the language of mathematics, and its characters are triangles, circles, and other geometric figures;...." [ 68 ] His mathematical analyses are a further development of a tradition employed by late scholastic natural philosophers, which Galileo learned when he studied philosophy. [ 69 ] Although he tried to remain loyal to the Catholic Church, his adherence to experimental results, and their most honest interpretation, led to a rejection of blind allegiance to authority, both philosophical and religious, in matters of science. In broader terms, this aided the separation of science from both philosophy and religion; a major development in human thought.

    By the standards of his time, Galileo was often willing to change his views in accordance with observation. In order to perform his experiments, Galileo had to set up standards of length and time, so that measurements made on different days and in different laboratories could be compared in a reproducible fashion. This provided a reliable foundation on which to confirm mathematical laws using inductive reasoning.

    Galileo showed a remarkably modern appreciation for the proper relationship between mathematics, theoretical physics, and experimental physics.

  • cantleave
    cantleave

    It's hardly surprising they get Physics and Metaphysics confused when they can even tell their Arse from their elbow!

  • Terry
    Terry

    When somebody wants to steal your car they have to disarm your auto alarm. What if they could trick you into turning it off first?

    This is how Watchtower criminals steal your mind. They get YOU to turn off your rational, testing, skeptical BS alarm.

  • Terry
    Terry

    I blame the act of turning over your mind to thieves: BELIEF.

    BELIEF and FAITH are iron clad boilerplate sacraments to so many people.

    Just another way of saying naive refusal to think and demand evidence.

  • sizemik
    sizemik

    Interesting post Terry . . .

    You could label it backward thinking. Science uses the physical to test and prove the metaphysical. The WTS does the exact opposite . . . with surprising effectiveness.

  • Jack C.
    Jack C.

    Metaphysical reality is not THE reality.

    Hmm... JW religious arguments aside, please define/explain reality without metaphysics? What is the Real or primary reality? I posit that there is no reality in a purely physical world, ie reality does not exist without the metaphysical. While I can easily comprehend a purely metaphysical world in which you and I exist, it is impossible to comprehend a purely physical world including myself. If it is impossible to imagine, it's impossible to explain. Imagine you don't exist, then reply. Can you do so?

  • sabastious
    sabastious

    -Sab

  • sizemik
    sizemik
    Imagine you don't exist, then reply.

    I exist because the five physical senses I have, by which I interpret physical reality, tell me that is the case. Beyond what the five senses tell me is metaphysical . . . including the possibility that I don't exist.

  • sabastious
    sabastious
    I exist because the five physical senses I have, by which I interpret physical reality, tell me that is the case. Beyond what the five senses tell me is metaphysical . . . including the possibility that I don't exist.

    Star Trek Voyager did some great work on holograms learning what they were. The writers seemed to imply that simple awareness of existence isn't enough for true sentience. Only after the initial awareness takes is when one can simply choose to be real.

    -Sab

  • Terry
    Terry

    Metaphysical reality is not THE reality.

    Hmm... JW religious arguments aside, please define/explain reality without metaphysics? What is the Real or primary reality? I posit that there is no reality in a purely physical world, ie reality does not exist without the metaphysical. While I can easily comprehend a purely metaphysical world in which you and I exist, it is impossible to comprehend a purely physical world including myself. If it is impossible to imagine, it's impossible to explain. Imagine you don't exist, then reply. Can you do so?

    You have now stepped into a puddle of ontology.

    We use LANGUAGE to paint an impression of what-lies-behind sensory data.

    Until mathematics was fully developed there was an awkward "fit".

    Science now uses measurement by mathematics which precisely accomodates physics without resorting to words.

    Another way of saying what I'm saying is that REALITY is that which EXISTS whether you are there or not. Further, whether you accurately perceive it when it reaches you or not, as well.

    If all humankind vanished in a neutron bomb blast what remained behind would be real enough. But, no necessary language would any longer necessitate description.

    There are mystics, quacks and metaphysicians who will try and convince you that YOU CAN'T TRUST your mind. But, this does not refute reality itself. It calls into question how rational our thinking process is. What skills do we possess? How do we test those skills?

    The test of reality is not science. The test of science is reality.

    Truth is that which most closely conforms to reality.

    Descriptions of reality are always non-contradictory.

    The mystic will ask: "What if you test your proofs while in a dream and IN that dream your proof is real?"

    This is like multiplying a number by a negative.

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