Timmy and Jack
I knew you when you first joined, my youve come a long way. You sound like a different man, and I guess you are in so many ways. Be happy my friend, cut the dead wood, enjoy life.
Love ya both x
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Timmy and Jack
I knew you when you first joined, my youve come a long way. You sound like a different man, and I guess you are in so many ways. Be happy my friend, cut the dead wood, enjoy life.
Love ya both x
Wasn't homosexuality outlawed along with eating shell fish in Deutaronmy?... I see JWs eating shellfish. Timmy I just read you story and t actually felt as if you'd made the right choice. You are human and the WT organisation are not humnitarians.
I came out as an Athiest not to long ago,...even if I haven't actually been a JW my partner is very close to being one. She pushed me over the edge by seeing exactly what the WT are.
In the UK there are so many folk who think they don't believe in god until they are faced with an ordeal then they turn to God for help...Ironic isn't it. Yes I was one of those sorts of people until I, realised what I was thinking and who god represents to me so I stood up and became human and responsible ofr myself without depending on gods judgement etc....
I am very happy for you if you are happy but relationships do need to be worked on to keep them alive. Thanks for posting this.
I'm so glad your parents are good with you. I'm happy that you have Jack. It's great that you see the WTB$ as having no authority over you. In your face GB!!!
They say 'Hell is other people'! I'd say 'Hell is the GB!'
Flip the bird at the GB my friend as another ex-JW joins the real world!
Fabulous Timmy! its so positive to hear your story! you have inspired me as i am in the position.
i am an MS in love with an elder form my hall for the past 12 years. his wife is pregnant with thier first child and i am devastated over it.
reading your story has made me feel that i can do it, i can leave the Org. i jsut need courage like you!
there's a few stories on here that are really good and i am sure that many posters will be familiar with this.
Good luck with everything!
WildeLover
I like what you say that it is not about rebellion but living your life and that you still love God, the bible, etc. Keep these loves close to your heart, and don't stop praying because life is hard anyway and it is good to be connected to a Higher Power. It is not by conduct, or behavior that we are saved, it is by Grace, and Jesus didnot come to condem or judge the world but to save it. Don't you ever give up the love you feel for God no matter what other people may say ...
I am happy for you. Thank you for sharing your story.
elder-schmelder
OMG I love you Timmy Turner! Props to you and coming out!
My best friend... I wish he could see your story. It was about three or four years since I see him! He ran off with this guy and I hadn't heard from him since, somewhere in Canada! I miss him so much and worry about him because all he kept saying is he wishes he could end his life or wish there was a place God put all the gays on an Island where we could live happy among ourselves. We would party to hard... and well we would drink our miseries away.
We both got Dfed together, him for coming out and not feeling like he could be him and live this other life as a JW and I well I had this boyfriend that was already Dfed and commented a sin with, that guy was a dooshbag and well ran when he heard me say I loved him... My best friend was there for me and I was there for him in that we just hung out all the time because being DFed was lonely. But we eventually found our own friends and hung out less and less. I just felt bad... I couldn't fathom how it was for him to have these feelings. It eventually came down to well do I live alone or get back in and have my family again. What the Elders told me was I couldn’t hang out with Jordan and would show me this scripture that what he was feeling was wrong to act on. It was like they only saw black and white... and I mentioned it to Jordan trying to figure this out. I believed him more that what he was feeling was a part of him not just an ordinary “feeling”. I was just as confused and mad about making choices.
I got reinstated and that is when he stopped talking to me... he said felt it was better for me. I cried I felt I was leaving the best friend ever… we grew up together and it was hard.
Well I got Dfed again this time with intentions of not going back. And will I lost contact with him. I done tons more research on the subject and have more understanding and found that there are more and more like him… and you!!
It makes me happy!
Though to each his own, nothing beats the body of a WOMAN. On a side note, I don't understand how some can believe in the Bible yet be gay, is that not condemned in the Bible, which for all intents and purposes is the word of god? Really confused... I understand your life style, don't have issues with that, but you seem to adhere to a book/god that does not approve of your lifestyle or choices. Hate to piss on your parade, but maybe deism or atheism might be better suited or better in line with your situation?
•Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."
•Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"
•1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."
•Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."
I am glad you have posted your story here for others to read, I am sure that there are others out there who are struggling with the same feelings and anxieties. Your story can show that there is hope and happiness and that there is a chance to build a real life where you can embrace all that you are.
You have come a long way, thank goodness you chose to reach out.
Timmy, educate yourself about what those scriptures posted above REALLY mean and in which context they should be understood before you go abandoning the bible.
An athiest NEEDS the bible to be as ugly and hateful as possible and will always present in that context. If you want some reading suggestions to help you understand these so-called "gotcha" scriptures better, shoot me a pm.