Armaggeddon may occur invisibly

by mankkeli 55 Replies latest jw friends

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  00DAD

  Perusing this thread, I was struck by the irony of how the WTBTS constantly pressures elders to take a VISIBLE lead in the field ministry, but our supposed Leader, Jesus Christ, leads INVISIBLY!

  For many years, we had a pioneer sister in our congregation that always turned in a complete Field Service Report, yet no one ever saw her out in service. We jokingly called her our Phantom Pioneer. Now I understand. She learned from the GB and just followed the example of Christ's invisible presence. Interesting that she turned in her reports. Probably she didn't want the elders harassing shepherding her!
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  Band on the Run

  During the height of the Viet Nam War, a leading Republican against the war, Sen. Aiken of Vermont, quipped that the U.S. should publicly proclaim that we won the war and will now withdraw.

  This seems a very likely scenario. How else can they ever get out of the mess they created? Of course, since Jesus is present and A. has happened, the org will have to be even more intrusive.
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  ziddina

  Amusingly, the Catholic layperson and author William J. Whalen speculated in his book "Armageddon Around the Corner" - printed in 1962, if I remember correctly - that the Watchtower Society was going to have to claim that "Armageddon" had come "invisibly" in 1975 when their predictions failed - yet again...

  I read that book when I was 9 - 10 years old, [1964...] and I remember especially noting his suggestion of the method the Watchtower would logically use to wriggle out of their false prophecy...

  I was greatly disappointed when the Watchtower Society - Gov.Bod - didn't display an ounce of brains after 1975 failed miserably... They sat like bumps on a log for 5 years and then BLAMED THE RANK & FILE...

  Apparently they hadn't read Mr. Whalen's book...
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  Mr Facts

  Christ’s pa·rou·si′a, or presence, started with Jesus’ installation as King in heaven in 1914 and continues on to include the “great tribulation,” during which he comes to destroy the wicked. (Matt. 24:21) Many different things, including “the last days” of this wicked system of things, the gathering of the chosen ones, and their resurrection to heavenly life, occur during this presence of Jesus. (2 Tim. 3:1; 1 Cor. 15:23; 1 Thess. 4:15-17; 2 Thess. 2:1) It could be said that the period constituting “the conclusion of the system of things” (syn·te′lei·a) corresponds to or runs parallel with the period called Christ’s presence (pa·rou·si′a).
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  cantleave

  Christ’s pa·rou·si′a, or presence, started with Jesus’ installation as King in heaven in 1914

  From that statement on I could smell BS.

  Mr. Facts = Mankkelli - Welcome back....

  my favourite Troll
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  bohm

  how is it going with your fake research manky? do you suppose you can get any of this insight into "Journal of Bullshit Bible Studies"?
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  Mr Facts

  Those without spiritual understanding today have felt that there has been no “striking observableness” with regard to the sign of Jesus’ presence. They reason that everything is continuing on as it did in the past. (2 Pet. 3:4) On the other hand, Christ’s faithful anointed brothers, the modern-day John class, have recognized this sign as if it were a flash of lightning and have understood its true meaning. As a class, these anointed ones make up the modern-day “generation” of contemporaries that will not pass away “until all these things occur.” This suggests that some who are Christ’s anointed brothers will still be alive on earth when the foretold great tribulation begins
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  cantleave

  Hey Manky - are going to post another avatar from a gay dating site?
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  designs

  Mid-Tribulationism
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  Mr Facts

  Our study of Jesus’ presence should have a direct bearing on our life and our expectations. Jesus urged his followers to stay alert. He provided a sign so that his presence could be recognized, though most would take no note: “As the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark; and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be.”—Matthew 24:37-39.

  During the days of Noah, most people of that generation just carried on with their normal affairs. Jesus foretold that it would be the same with “the presence of the Son of man.” The people around Noah might have felt that nothing would happen. You know differently. Those days, which spread over time, led to a climax, “the flood came and swept them all away.” Luke presents a similar account in which Jesus compared “the days of Noah” with “the days of the Son of man.” Jesus admonished: “The same way it will be on that day when the Son of man is to be revealed.”—Luke 17:26-30.