Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 09-04-2011 WT Study (GUIDANCE)

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    Comments You Will Not Hear at the 09-04-11 WT Study (JULY 15, 2011, pages 10-14 )(GUIDANCE)

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    WILL YOU FOLLOW JEHOVAH’S

    LOVING GUIDANCE?

    “Every false path I have hated.”—PS. 119:128.

    OPENING COMMENTS

    “Unrealities” now that’s a new theocratic term. Idols and images, something or someone that is worshipped. How many jws “worship” the anointed, but more specifically the governing body. Aren’t jws told to put the elders on high, assigning them “double honor”? Behind closed doors, the CO tells the elders that they are mighty men who receive more holy spirit than the rank and file.

    START OF ARTICLE

    1, 2. (a) In seeking guidance to reach a destination,

    what kind of warning might you appreciate,

    and why? (b) What kinds of warnings does Jehovah

    offer those who serve him, and why?

    IMAGINE this: You need to travel to a certain

    destination. For guidance, you turn

    to a trusted friend who knows the way. As he

    gives you thorough directions, he might say

    something like this: “Be careful about that

    next turn. The sign is misleading. A lot of

    people follow it and wind up getting lost.”

    Would you appreciate his concern and heed

    the warning? In some ways, Jehovah is like

    that friend. He gives us careful directions

    about how to reach our destination of everlasting

    life, but he also warns us about bad

    influences that could cause us to go the

    wrong way.—Deut. 5:32; Isa. 30:21.

    COMMENTS

    Giving directions the same as making life decisions…only one way? Or all roads lead to Rome—different paths can take one to the same goal, different ways to complete a task?

    Does God give the “careful” directions or the self-appointed WTS? Who interprets or rather explains the scriptures.

    The WTS has said the way would lead to 1914, 1920, 1925, 1940’s, 1975, (1984—70 yr generation), (1994—80 yr generation)

    CARROT ON THE STICK: our destination of everlasting life

    2 In this and the following article, we will

    discuss some influences about which our

    Friend, Jehovah God, warns us. Let us keep

    in mind that Jehovah gives such warnings

    out of concern and love. He wants us to

    reach our destination. It pains him to see

    people giving in to bad influences and losing

    their way. (Ezek. 33:11) In this article, we

    will discuss three negative influences. The

    first is an external force, the second an internal

    one. The third is not even real; nonetheless,

    it is very dangerous. We need to know

    what these influences are and how our heavenly

    Father teaches us to resist them. One inspired

    psalmist said to Jehovah: “Every false

    path I have hated.” (Ps. 119:128) Do you feel

    the same way? Let us see how we can intensify

    such feelings and act on them.

    COMMENTS

    So God is not our Father? The WTS teaches that the “other sheep” will not have that honor until the end of the 1,000 year reign and they pass the final test by Satan. Whereas the anointed on earth, are already spiritual sons.

    The WTS teaches that God gives those warnings only through their organization, in their publications, talks, etc. It is not possible to read the Bible without them and understand it.

    Have jws hated every false path the WTS has presented, 1914, 1920, 1925, 1940’s, 1975…?

    Do Not Follow “After the Crowd”

    3. (a) Why might it be dangerous to follow other

    travelers when we are unsure about which way to

    go? (b) What important principle do we find at Exodus

    23:2?

    3 In taking a long journey, what would

    you do if you felt unsure about which way to

    go? You might feel tempted to follow other

    travelers—especially if you saw a great many

    making the same choice. Such a course is

    risky. After all, those travelers may not be

    heading toward your destination, or they

    too may be lost. In this connection, consider

    a principle that underlies one of the laws

    given to ancient Israel. Those who served as

    judges or as witnesses in judicial matters

    were warned of the danger of ‘following after

    the crowd.’ (Read Exodus 23:2.) Without

    doubt, it is all too easy for imperfect humans

    to bow to peer pressure, perverting

    justice. However, is the principle about not

    following the crowd restricted to judicial

    matters? Not at all.

    COMMENTS

    Don’t jws following each other, 7 million plus strong just like lemmings? Today an older sister died; she had been told for 56 years that she would never die, would surivive without dying into the new system and she is not alone. How many of that generation are dying with the next generation their children wonder if that is their future?

    Don’t you wonder what the judges in Israelite times used in their public hearings? The scriptures or a man-made book explaining it? Did they use the Torah or the Talmud?

    What did Jesus have to say about the Talmud, man-made rules?

    (Matthew15:1-11) Then there came to Jesus from Jerusalem Pharisees and scribes, saying: 2 “Why is it your disciples overstep the tradition of the men of former times? For example, they do not wash their hands when about to eat a meal.” 3 In reply he said to them: “Why is it YOU also overstep the commandment of God because of YOUR tradition? 4 For example, God said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘Let him that reviles father or mother end up in death.’ 5 But YOU say, ‘Whoever says to his father or mother: “Whatever I have by which you might get benefit from me is a gift dedicated to God,” 6 he must not honor his father at all.’ And so YOU have made the word of God invalid because of YOUR tradition. 7 YOU hypocrites, Isaiah aptly prophesied about YOU, when he said,8 ‘This people honors me with their lips, yet their heart is far removed from me. 9 It is in vain that they keep worshiping me, because they teach commands of men as doctrines.’” 10 With that he called the crowd near and said to them: “Listen and get the sense of it: 11 Not what enters into [his] mouth defiles a man; but it is what proceeds out of [his] mouth that defiles a man.”

    4, 5. How were Joshua and Caleb pressured to follow

    the crowd, but what enabled them to resist?

    4 In truth, the pressure to “follow after the

    crowd” can affect us at almost any time. It

    may arise suddenly, and it can be very difficult

    to resist. Think, for example, of the

    peer pressure that Joshua and Caleb once

    faced. They were part of a group of 12 men

    who went into the Promised Land to spy it

    out. Upon their return, ten of those men

    gave a very negative and discouraging report.

    They even claimed that some of the

    land’s inhabitants were giants descended

    from the Nephilim, the offspring of rebel

    angels and women. (Gen. 6:4) Now, that

    claim was absurd. Those wicked hybrids had

    been wiped out in the Deluge many centuries

    earlier, leaving not a single descendant

    behind. But even the most baseless ideas can

    exert power over those weak in faith. The

    negative reports from those ten spies quickly

    spread fear and panic among the people. Before

    long, most were sure that it would be a

    mistake to enter the Promised Land as Jehovah

    had directed. In that volatile situation,

    what did Joshua and Caleb do?—Num.

    13:25-33.

    COMMENTS

    So if following after the crowd, even the crowd of 7 million plus jws, is wrong, why does the WTS discourage independent or critical thinking by its members. Should they just follow their religious “leaders” as the Jews did leading the vast majority to reject Jesus as Messiah?

    Whose expressions was John saying that Christians should test, people inside or outside the Christian congregation?

    (1 John 4:1) Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world.

    Were Gentiles influencing Joshua and Caleb (OT example) or fellow worshippers?

    Were the Nephilim any different from Rutherford’s statement that the “ancient worthies” (Abel, Noah, Abraham, Job, David, John the Baptist, etc) would be resurrected on earth in 1925, to take up rulership in Jerusalem?

    Millions now living will never die brochure (pages 89, 90) J.R. Rutherford 1920

    EARTHLY RULERS

    As we have heretofore stated, the great jubilee cycle is due to begin in 1925. At that time the earthly phase of the kingdom shall be recognized. The Apostle Paul in the eleventh chapter of Hebrews names a long list of faithful men who died before the crucifixion of the Lord and before the beginning of the selection of the church. These can never be a part of the heavenly class; they had no heavenly hopes; but God has in store something good for them. They are to be resurrected as perfect men and constitute the princes or rulers in the earth, according to his promise. (Psalm 45:16; Isaiah 32:1; Matthew 8:11) Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old, particularly those named by the Apostle in Hebrews chapter eleven, to the condition of human perfection.

    http://www.strictlygenteel.co.uk/millions/millions.html

    5 They did not go following after the

    crowd. Although the crowd hated to hear it,

    those two men told the truth and stuck to it

    —even when threatened with death by stoning!

    Where did they get the courage? No

    doubt, a good part of it came from their

    faith. People with faith see clearly the difference

    between the baseless claims of men

    and the sacred promises of Jehovah God.

    Both men later expressed how they felt

    about Jehovah’s record in fulfilling his every

    promise. (Read Joshua 14:6, 8; 23:2, 14.)

    Joshua and Caleb were attached to their

    faithful God, and they could not imagine

    hurting him for the sake of following a faithless

    crowd. So they stood firm, setting a sterling

    example for us today.—Num.14:1-10.

    COMMENTS

    Did the WTS tell the truth? Or do they teach that there are not required to tell the truth to people who are not entitled to it?

    Court case in 1954

    http://www.quotes-watchtower.co.uk/false_prophecy_admitted.html

    http://www.lulu.com/product/file-download/the-1954-walsh-trial-transcript/834182

    6. In what ways might we feel pressured to follow

    the crowd?

    6 Do you ever feel pressured to follow after

    the crowd? People who are alienated from

    Jehovah and who scoff at his moral standards

    certainly form a vast crowd today.

    When it comes to entertainment and recreation,

    that crowd often promote baseless

    ideas. They may insist that the immorality,

    violence, and spiritism so prevalent

    in television programs, movies, and video

    games are harmless. (2 Tim. 3:1-5) When

    you choose entertainment and recreation

    for yourself or your family, do you allow the

    lax consciences of others to influence your

    decisions and to mold your conscience?

    Would that not, in effect, amount to following

    after the crowd?

    COMMENTS

    Pressured to follow what crowd; the WTS crowd?

    Is the elder with the season tickets to the university basketball games, what baseless ideas is he promoting?

    Or the elder who gets R-rated movies and zips through the “bad” parts at the parties he gives at home? Are the people who come letting his lax conscience mold theirs?

    Are you ever tempted to follow the crowd?

    7, 8. (a) How are our “perceptive powers” trained,

    and why is such training more useful than following

    a host of rigid rules? (b)Why do you find the example

    of many Christian youths heartwarming?

    7 Jehovah has given us a precious gift

    to help us make decisions—our “perceptive

    powers.” However, these powers need

    to be trained “through use.” (Heb. 5:14)

    Following the crowd would not train our

    perceptive powers; nor, on the other hand,

    would a host of rigid rules in matters of conscience.

    That is why, for example, Jehovah’s

    people are not given a list of films, books,

    and Internet sites to avoid. Because this

    world changes so fast, such a list would be

    outdated soon after it was made. (1 Cor. 7:

    31) Worse, it would deprive us of the vital

    work of weighing Bible principles carefully

    and prayerfully and then making decisions

    on the basis of those principles.—Eph. 5:10.

    COMMENTS

    Do jws make their own decisions or do they let the elders do that so they do the “right” thing and retain their “privileges”? Are they “using” their power of decision or are the elders?

    Are there a host of “rigid” rules or flexible rules that the WTS can apply to any specific situation? Yes don’t say Facebook but do say “all social network sites.”

    No matter what principle a jw may use, the overriding principle is that some unnamed jw will have told the elder that they would be stumbled if you do what you have so carefully “reasoned” out using “bible” principles.

    8 Of course, our Bible-based decisions

    may at times make us unpopular. Christian

    youths in school may face strong pressure

    from the crowd to see and do what everyone

    else is seeing and doing. (1 Pet. 4:4) Therefore,

    it is beautiful to see Christians young

    and old imitating the faith of Joshua and Caleb,

    refusing to follow after the crowd.

    COMMENTS

    Yes, “bible” based decisions can make you unpopular with other jws. What would have happened if mentioned Brother Zip’s watching R-rated movies? Or what if you decide you can’t go out d2d with time-wasting pioneers because your conscience is troubled?

    Yes, not following the crowd of 7 million plus jws can make you unpopular.

    Do Not Follow “Your Hearts and Your Eyes”

    9. (a) In the course of a journey, why might it be

    dangerous simply to follow our urges and impulses?

    (b)Why was the law found at Numbers 15:37-39 relevant

    to God’s ancient people?

    9 The second dangerous influence we will

    discuss is an internal one. We might illustrate

    it this way: If you were taking a journey

    to a particular destination, can you imagine

    deciding to cast aside your map and simply

    follow your impulses—perhaps turning onto

    every road that seemed to offer pretty views?

    Clearly, giving in to such impulses would

    keep you from reaching your goal. In this regard,

    consider another of Jehovah’s laws to

    ancient Israel. Many today might find a law

    about putting fringes and blue threads on

    their garments hard to understand. (Read

    Numbers 15:37-39.) Do you see the relevance,

    though? Obeying such a law helped

    God’s people to keep themselves distinct

    and separate from the pagan nations around

    them. That was vital if they were to gain and

    maintain Jehovah’s approval. (Lev. 18:24,

    25) However, that law also reveals a dangerous

    internal influence that might lead us

    away from our destination of everlasting life.

    How so?

    COMMENTS

    So what map would a jw be casting aside, the bible or the WT publication? As one elder said from the platform as he held up the WT, “And what do we base on beliefs on?”

    What if your road was blocked by a landslide? Wouldn’t it be prudent to go back and take a safer side road?

    So what represents the fringes and blue threads for jws today? Is there any dress or grooming that singles out only jws? Especially from many evangelical groups?

    CARROT: DESTINATION OF EVERLASTING LIFE

    10. How has Jehovah shown insight into human

    nature?

    10 Note what Jehovah gave his people as a

    reason behind this law: “You must not go

    about following your hearts and your eyes,

    which you are following in immoral intercourse.”

    Jehovah has profound insight into

    human nature. He well knows how easily

    our heart, or inner self, is seduced by what

    we take in through our eyes. The Bible thus

    warns us: “The heart is more treacherous

    than anything else and is desperate. Who

    can know it?” (Jer. 17:9) Do you see, then,

    just how fitting was Jehovah’s warning to

    the Israelites? He well knew that they would

    be inclined to look at the pagan peoples

    around them and be seduced by what they

    saw. They might be tempted to look like

    those unbelievers and then to think, feel,

    and act like them.—Prov.13:20.

    COMMENTS

    So will jws be safe if they avoid being around non-jws? What about the jws with large homes, big cars, fancy trips, lavish meals, abundant alcoholic beverages, expensive jewelry, clothes, etc. So how would they look the “unbelievers.” Not every body looks like a tattooed geek, Lady Gagaesque,; or with black nail polish, bright red lipstick, 3 inch heel. I remember the PO who had his bible student cut his hair in one of those spiky up dos…

    11. In what way might we be seduced by our physical

    senses?

    11 In our own day, it is even easier for our

    treacherous heart to be seduced by our physical

    senses. We live in a world that is geared

    toward appealing to fleshly inclinations. So

    how can we apply the principle behind

    Numbers 15:39? Consider: If those around

    you at school, at the workplace, or in your

    community are dressing more and more

    provocatively, might you be affected? Might

    you be tempted to ‘follow your heart and

    eyes’ and be seduced by what you see? Then

    might you be tempted to lower your own

    standards by dressing in a similar manner?

    —Rom.12:1, 2.

    COMMENTS

    More provocatively in the congregation is more like it. I remember one congregation had a special needs talk about how the sisters were dressing, long nails, red or black, bright lipstick, tall heels, skirts too tight, and dyed hair. Then the new CO came next week and his wife walked in and you guessed it, obviously black dyed hair, long red nails, bright red lipstick, 3 inch spike heels and a skirt a little too tight.

    12, 13. (a) What should we do if our eyes tend to

    wander where they should not? (b) What can move

    us to avoid becoming a source of temptation to others?

    12 We urgently need to cultivate self control.

    If our eyes tend to wander where

    they should not, let us recall the firm resolve

    of faithful Job, who made a formal agreement

    with his own eyes—a firm decision not

    to give romantic attention to a woman not

    his own wife. (Job 31:1) Similarly, King David

    resolved: “I shall not set in front of

    my eyes any good-for-nothing thing.” (Ps.

    101:3) Whatever might damage our clean

    conscience and our relationship with Jehovah

    is for us a “good-for-nothing thing.”

    That would include any temptation that appeals

    to our eyes and threatens to seduce our

    heart into wrongdoing.

    COMMENTS

    Job—OT—remember that Job had no barrier to having more than one wife, to have sex with a single woman; he had no obligation under any law of God.

    I’m hoping that King David said “I will not set in front of my eyes any good-for-nothing” after he took another man’s wife and had her husband killed.

    13 On the other hand, we certainly would

    never want to become, in a sense, a “good-for-

    nothing thing” to others by tempting

    them to contemplate wrongdoing. We

    therefore take seriously the Bible’s inspired

    counsel to wear well-arranged and modest

    clothing. (1 Tim. 2:9) Modesty is not

    something we can simply define in a way

    that suits us. We need to take into account

    the consciences and sensitivities of those

    around us, putting their peace of mind

    and welfare ahead of our own preferences.

    (Rom.15:1, 2) The Christian congregation is

    blessed with many thousands of young people

    who set sterling examples in this regard.

    How proud they make us as they refuse to

    ‘follow their hearts and their eyes,’ choosing

    instead to please Jehovah in all that they do

    —even in the way they dress!

    COMMENTS

    Oh yes, poor men, they can’t see the glimpse of an ankle or a bare arm and not get sexually excited. It was Bathsheba’s fault that David saw her bathing….yup, yup.

    So no slits even just below the knee, all shirts or dresses or sweaters must button under the chin, skirts around the ankles, no heels higher than one inch, do you get the idea that it is not the males the are exciting the sensitivities of the women.

    Jws think modesty has to do with dress, but more importantly is not gossiping and spreading false stories.

    Do Not Follow “Unrealities”

    14. What warning about pursuing

    “unrealities” did Samuel deliver?

    14 Imagine that your journey took you

    across a vast desert. What would happen if

    you veered off the road to pursue a mirage?

    Pursuing that illusion could cost you

    your life! Jehovah well knows that danger.

    Consider an example. The Israelites wanted

    to be like the nations around them, who

    were ruled by human kings. That desire was,

    in fact, a grave sin, for it amounted

    to a rejection of Jehovah as their King.

    Although Jehovah allowed them to have a human

    king, he had his prophet Samuel deliver a

    pointed warning about pursuing “unrealities.”—

    Read 1 Samuel 12:21.

    COMMENTS

    What is a WTS mirage? That we are close to the “end.” The WTS says it has been close in 1914, 1920, 1925, 1940’s, 1975, 1984, 1994, being on the threshold all that time. As soon as you get close to a date it evaporates.

    The Israelites were wrong to want a human king, yet jws are told they cannot go directly to God but have to go through Jesus and they cannot go through Jesus without going through the WTS organization, basically a human ruler on earth.

    Why is it dangerous to follow an impulse?

    15. In what ways did the Israelites

    pursue unrealities?

    15 Did those people think that a human king would

    somehow be more real, more dependable,

    than Jehovah? If so, they were truly pursuing

    an unreality! And they were in danger of

    pursuing many other satanic illusions. Human

    kings would easily lead them into idolatry.

    Idolaters make the mistake of thinking

    that physical objects—gods made of wood

    or stone—are somehow more real, more reliable,

    than the invisible God, Jehovah, who

    created all things. But as the apostle Paul

    noted, idols are “nothing.” (1 Cor. 8:4) They

    cannot see, hear, speak, or act. You might be

    able to see them and touch them, but if you

    were to worship one, you would, indeed,

    be pursuing an unreality—an empty illusion

    that would bring only disaster.—Ps.

    115:4-8.

    COMMENTS

    What is an “unreality”? An illusion, a mirage…see paragraph 14 for some of the WTS illusions.

    16. (a) How does Satan lure many today into pursuing

    unrealities? (b) Why can we say that material

    things are unrealities, especially in comparison with

    Jehovah God?

    16 Satan is still adept at convincing people

    to pursue unrealities. For instance, he has

    seduced innumerable people into looking

    to material things to provide security. Money,

    possessions, and high-paying jobs may

    seem to deliver advantages. What do

    material things deliver, though, when health fails,

    when the economy crumbles, or when a

    natural disaster strikes? What do they deliver

    when people feel empty inside, in need of

    purpose, direction, and answers to life’s

    deeper questions? What relief can they deliver

    in the face of death? If we look to material

    things to fill spiritual needs, we will be

    disappointed. Material possessions do not

    deliver; they are unrealities. In the long run,

    they cannot even provide physical security,

    for they have no lasting effect on the present

    brevity of human life or the likelihood of

    sickness and death. (Prov. 23:4, 5) How

    much more real, then, is our God, Jehovah!

    Only in a strong relationship with him can

    we find genuine security. What a precious

    blessing that is! Let us never forsake him in

    the pursuit of unrealities.

    COMMENTS

    Why does the WTS tar every non-jw with the same brush? Why do they assume that jws get infected by people outside the congregation? Who do they spend most of their time with, other jws? What is a high-paying job…one that pays your bills or must jws seek to live in poverty? If material things are empty, why did Jesus teach his disciples to ask God for food?

    17. What is your resolve regarding the negative influences

    we have discussed?

    17 Are we not blessed to have Jehovah as

    our Friend and Guide on life’s journey? If

    we continue to heed his loving warnings

    against three bad influences—the crowd,

    our own hearts, and unrealities—we will be

    much more likely to reach our destination

    of everlasting life. In the following article,

    let us consider three more warnings that Jehovah

    provides to help us hate and avoid

    the false paths that lead so many astray.—Ps.

    119:128.

    COMMENTS

    CARROT—DESTINATION OF EVERLASTING LIFE

    Are you pursuing any unrealities?

    What Do You Think?

    How can you make personal application

    of the principles revealed in the following

    scriptures?

    Exodus 23:2

    Numbers 15:37-39

    1 Samuel 12:21

    Psalm 119:12

    CONCLUDING COMMENTS

    Next week, WILL YOU HEED JEHOVAH’S CLEAR WARNINGS?

    False teachers—what false teachings are found in the WTS doctrines?

    Sorry this is late. I had a close family member die this weekend as well as a serious personal medical emergency.

    Love, Blondie

  • yesidid
    yesidid

    Thank you Blondie.

  • ziddina
    ziddina

    Yay, Blondie's posted another article!!

    Thank you very much!!

    colorful calla lillies

  • ziddina
    ziddina
    "As he gives you thorough directions, he might say something like this: "Be careful about that next turn. The sign is misleading. A lot of people follow it and wind up getting lost." ..."

    Now, I've driven in a lot of cities that I was totally unfamiliar with, driven back roads looking for trail heads, hiked trails and have had to deal with 'braided' trails, and I've asked for directions more times than I can count, but I've NEVER gotten that response...

    Usually if I'm talking to locals, they give directions based on landmarks; they really don't pay that much attention to the street names....

    Zid

  • ziddina
    ziddina
    "... we will discuss some influences about which our Friend, Jehovah God, warns us. ..."

    Our FRIEND????

    That makes me think of these clueless parents who are always trying to be their child's 'buddy', and attempt to regain their lost youth by acting like they're 13 years old, too....

    I don't think I want to be friends with a bloodthirsty, Bronze-Age Middle-Eastern god... That 'friendship' would be very one-sided in its benefits...

  • JW GoneBad
    JW GoneBad

    Sorry this is late. I had a close family member die this weekend as well as a serious personal medical emergency.

    No apology needed. Talk about a self-sacrificing spirit! You are a Gem.

    It is we who are sorry for your loss and wish a speedy recovery to your health.

    Thank you Blondie.

  • ziddina
    ziddina
    " In this article, we will discuss three negative influences. The first is an external force, the second an internal one. The third is not even real; nonetheless, it is very dangerous. ..."

    Ahhhh....

    This comes very close to being a 'boogyman' - it ain't real, but it'll getcha anyway!!!

  • ziddina
    ziddina
    " Sorry this is late. I had a close family member die this weekend as well as a serious personal medical emergency. ..."

    Blondie, I'm sorry to hear that! I hadn't gotten that far in your post yet - good thing JW Gone Bad had read further ahead!!

    Like he said, you're a gem - and a very determined lady - not letting such deep personal blows impede you...

    My deepest sympathies...

    tulips

  • JW GoneBad
    JW GoneBad

    Little do the GB know how this statement in Par 5 applies to them...............

    "People with faith see clearly the difference between the baseless claims of men (the governing body of JWs) and the sacred promises of Jehovah God."

    This explains the exodus of so many from the organization!

  • ziddina
    ziddina
    "...Many today might find a law about putting fringes and blue threads on their garments hard to understand. .... Obeying such a law helped God's people to keep themselves distinct and separate from the pagan nations around them. ..."

    As someone commented on another thread - I think it was the "Sisters still can't wear pantsuits" thread - the Watchtower Society's edicts about so-called "modest" dress has caused Jehovah's Witnesses to look behind-the-times, backwards, weird and sometimes even clownish.

    Well, at least they're "distinct". Not distinctive, just standing out like a sore thumb...

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