DO THE MATH: The Jehovah's Witness PREMISE doesn't add up

by Terry 33 Replies latest jw friends

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  Terry

  There are approximately 216,000 babies born every day in the whole entire world.

  If every woman every place on Earth suddenly stopped conceiving at the same time, it would take 9 months for all the babies in wombs to be born.

  How many babies would that be by the end of that 9 months?

  (At approximately 30 days per month=270 days)

  270 TIMES 216,000 = 58,320,000 (58 million!)

  Are you ready to use that information to refute Matthew 24:14?

  Matthew 24:14

  King James Version (KJV)

  14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

  How manyJehovahWitnesses are there in the world?

  The 2010 official statistics in the Watchtower publications give a figure of just over seven and a half million (7,500,000) as the peak number of Witnesses who reported time spent preaching.... Houston, we have a MATH PROBLEM! If every Jehovah's Witness spent 10 hours in the ministry every month they would still have 58 MILLION more to preach to regardless of how many they have already reached EVERY MONTH! __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ SECOND problem: When Armageddon comes there will be at any one instant 58 million unborn babies STILL IN THE WOMB! If Jehovah destroys 58 million UNBORN, what is the point in preaching to anybody at anytime in history to give a "fair chance"?? DO THE MATH: the premise of the preaching work of Jehovah's Witnesses doesn't pass the smell test.
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  Terry

  About 70,000 die in the world every day
  10,000 in south america
  20,000 in north america
  15,000 in asia
  10,000 in europe
  15,000 in africa
  Most of those deaths are from dieases
  about 5% from murder
  about 20% from cancer
  about 5% from fires
  about 30% from heart dieases
  about 20% from suicide
  about 10% from cancer
  about 10% from Malaria/Hiv/Aids/infections/Fever
  There are over 6,000,000,000 people in the world and each day thousands of people die from these problems/complications. The expected world population in 2012 is going to be 7,500,000,000 or more.

  146,000 is the difference between BORN and DIED each and every day. It is the NET GAIN in population daily.

  Eighteen million nine hundred thousand is the differential between babies born and people dying every nine months.
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  Found Sheep

  This is not true Terry... I think you may have some douts you need to study the WT more and go out in Field Service more and then this weakness will go away!

  FS
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  Terry

  The Watchtower premise that people are getting a fair shake because the noble bros. and sis's are knocking doors doesn't stand up to even casual scrutiny.

  They have been at it since 1879.

  They can't keep up, catch up or staunch the hemorrahge.

  On top of the sheer impossibility of the numbers is the fact that once they inform, teach, indoctrinate and baptise the few they are able to snatch from the jaws of death THE DOCTRINE HAS CHANGED and the "truth" that brought in the previous group is a different "truth" for the new group!

  Think of all the anxious souls who barely escaped THE END OF 6,000 YEARS OF HUMAN EXISTENCE in 1975---who are saved from---what? NOTHING!

  The message that "saved" those people was a FALSE MESSAGE!

  From 1968 to 1975 is a period of 84 months.

  18,144,000 babies were born while Jehovah's Witnesses were "warning" about 1975

  The message for those babies who are now in their 30's and 40's is that "We warned your parents about a date that meant nothing!"

  How does that wash credibility-wise?
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  Found Sheep

  You are 100% right I was joking!!!FS I like all your numbers..
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  Jim_TX

  Your numbers and logic are good... the only problem I see with it is that JWs are poor at math (I.E. 607 & 1914 - a day for a year - etc.), and they will not be able to follow this easily.

  Secondly, even if you are able to get them to realize that the math and numbers don't add up, they will shift into denial (not to be confused with de-Nile) mode and will wave it off with a 'if Jehovah wants those people to hear his word he can make the rocks cry out' - or some such. This was the drivel that my ex-wife gave me when I asked her about China and the lack of JWs there, to preach to the large population.

  Methinks you have waaaaay too much time on your hands to be thinking about things like this. ;-)

  Regards,

  Jim TX
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  LostGeneration

  Great post. Running the numbers as started doubting the JW doctrines was one of the things that convinced me 100% that the idea of Armageddon JW style was ridiculous. One of my favorite websites I found is here:

  http://galen.metapath.org/popclk.html

  Basically its a counter, showing the increase of people second by second. You can plug in any date as well and get a fairly good estimate of how many people were living at the time. Great to show a JW how many people were living in 1914 as an example (about 910 million)
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  Intel

  Yes Terry, BigJoe will read the hearts of those unborn babies and find a solution - not the final solution - but a suitable solution. At the end, there is no need to doubt or make stupdi questions - everybody will get their mansion, explained in wonderful words by the Governing Body:

  http://youtu.be/i7JA0e0_o_s

  You really need to read those mags more and also to get slapped by the FDS and again: Don't do stupid questions. We don't want to hear that (putting fingers in the ears and: LALALALALALALALALALALALALAAAAAAAAAAA)

  ;-)

  Thanks for this thread and many others that I read with delight!!!!
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  Heaven

  The Watchtower premise that people are getting a fair shake because the noble bros. and sis's are knocking doors doesn't stand up to even casual scrutiny.

  This was one of the things that, as a teenager, made me realize I was being lied to and that something very fishy is going on here. The math just doesn't add up.

  I never bought into the 'We're preaching to all the inhabited Earth'. Uh, I highly doubt it, especially when JWs had no clue about some of the remote tribes of peoples who are just being discovered now, let alone knowing and being able to speak their language.
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  Terry

  You are 100% right I was joking!!!

  I know. I could tell by the expression on your face.

  To me, the moment I suddenly realized it doesn't matter that you go door to door IF WHAT YOU BRING TO THE DOOR IS CRAP!

  Meat in due season, if tainted, is more of an assault than a life saving work.

  Food at the proper time with a shelf date is fine for restaurants and grocery stores. But, Truth that expires and must be replaced is very suspicious!